Fenty claims semi-auto handguns still illegal

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DC is granting amnesty for those that have handguns now. I think the reason why is because it is impossible for them to enforce a law the Supreme Court said is moot. They are claiming after July 17th they will be allowing people to register revolvers.
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And you really think if you walk down with your semi-auto and they decline to register it you are going to walk away with it?
You may not even walk away.

Best not bother unless you have the lawyer lined up and are ready to fight.

This is DC.

They will do everything in their power to thwart the ruling, and dare anyone to come after them again.

It is pretty obvious from the decision that not allowing semi auto handguns is not going to fly, but they will try and force $$ to be spent to get another ruling.
 
As I understand it, the district court gets to decide if they are in compliance with the SC ruling, when all is said and done.
 
Jefferson said that the tree of liberty must be fertilized from time to time with the blood of tyrants, as that is the manuer. Well, blood could be taken to mean money and jail time for the tyrants of DC, including the Mayor (Fenty), the Chief of Police (Lanier), The AG, and any police officers that illegally thwart the constitution. Didn't they all take an oath to protect and defend the constitution to the best of their abilities? So we can eventually get them for violation of their sacred oath and dereliction of duties. This will all take time, so we need to be patient. I suggest having a bullet to bite on to get past some of the initial pain the tyrants of DC will inflict on us through their illegal and unconstitutional actions. We need to keep the pressure on them and maintain our cooler heads, which, will eventually, prevail with the Heller flag flying high on our standard.
 
As I understand it, the district court gets to decide if they are in compliance with the SC ruling, when all is said and done.
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Remember that this is the court that ruled against Heller, and was overturned by the court of appeals, and then SCOTUS upheld the court of appeals.
 
And you really think if you walk down with your semi-auto and they decline to register it you are going to walk away with it?
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With just one or two exceptions, no, they are saying they are only registering revolvers and derringers or single shots.

You may not even walk away.
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DC has had a law on the books for a long time where if you bring a handgun to the police station to drop off, they cannot even get your name or take your picture.
So in other words, you show up with a semi auto and they will say thank you and send you on your way without it.
 
Remember that this is the court that ruled against Heller, and was overturned by the court of appeals, and then SCOTUS upheld the court of appeals.
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From what I remember, they dismissed it and didn't even hear it. Since it now has legal merit (obviously :D), they would not be able to dismiss another case so easily.
 
Remember that this is the court that ruled against Heller, and was overturned by the court of appeals, and then SCOTUS upheld the court of appeals.
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So they were effectively slapped down by the District Court of Appeals and the USSC hit them again, for good measure. You'd think they'd be a little sensitive now, but this is D.C. and they are, obviously, liberal judges in the DC court. Thus, they may be willing to take more punishment to protect the liberal agenda, meaning more gun control, rather than any less. This should be interesting as to how it plays out. There are other cities and states whose governing officials will be watching this.
 
The US Supreme Court upheld the appeals court ruling.

The Appeals Court said that once a weapon is determined to be an "arm" under the second amendment, it is not an option for the state to ban it.

That decision will be the key to bust the D.C. government's policy.

All anyone needs is the guts to try.
 
As a DC cop, I'm finding a lot of hostility towards my coworkers and myself. Those in law enforcement should know that there is often very little in common between an officer and the associated politicians.

-Coop
 
As a DC cop, I'm finding a lot of hostility towards my coworkers and myself. Those in law enforcement should know that there is often very little in common between an officer and the associated politicians.

-Coop
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The sergeant I spoke to in the registration section was very courteous, helpful and professional.

Chief Cathy Lanier, I do not envy her position. Because of the politics she has to be Fenty's puppet. I like her though.
 
First of all not all of DC is crime ridden, there is a huge rich section (where Congress probably mostly lives) that is about one quarter of the city. Second, even in the rest of the city there are some nice oasis neighborhoods. Third, if you work for the federal government it has its advantages. Fourth, in spite of the crime and a relatively large segment of low life idiots, the rest of it has a certain charm and the rest of the people are generally good. decent people.
 
DC west of Rock Creek Park is actually pretty nice.
Parts of Capital Hill are nice, and scattered other neighborhoods.
 
As a DC cop, I'm finding a lot of hostility towards my coworkers and myself.
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How many otherwise innocent people have suffered because you enforced blatantly unconstitutional laws? I agree it is the politicians that should suffer the wrath of the voters, but they seem pretty good at sliding by.
 
How many otherwise innocent people have suffered because you enforced blatantly unconstitutional laws?
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Who says any. I work "east of the river" there's plenty of drug dealers and killers here to keep me busy. The good citizens I do encounter are treated the same way I treat my mother.

-Coop
 
As a DC cop, I'm finding a lot of hostility towards my coworkers and myself. Those in law enforcement should know that there is often very little in common between an officer and the associated politicians.

-Coop
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Coop, I have a couple of questions. I don't know the answers to these, so please don't feel as if I'm trying to set you up or "get you".

1. Did you take an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States? I was under the assumption that all LEO's did, but maybe that assumption was wrong. If the answer is "NO", then I have no more questions.

2. If the answer is "YES" in #1, then have you ever had to arrest anyone for having a handgun in Washington, D.C. but who was not otherwise a prohibited person? Since you must also carry out the orders of the DC government, hasn't there been a conflict between your oath to defend the constitution and your duty to enforce what turned out to be unconstitutional law? I'm curious as to whether you've found yourself in this position. If so, how did you deal with it?

3. If you haven't been involved in arresting otherwise law abiding folks because they had a gun in D.C., do you know any cops in DC who have? How did they deal with the oath and duty issue?
 
East of the river in Washington DC means SE DC/Anacostia, that is the area to avoid if you're a visitor because there is just no reason to go there. For a short period back in the '80's I commuted daily to Bolling AFB/Anacostia Naval Station and never got off I-295; just looking at the neighborhoods as I drove by they seemed very unwelcoming.

Of note, there is (or at least was) a very good indoor range on Anacostia NS and somehow I managed to drive through DC (on 295) with a pistol or two in my trunk to occasionally shoot on the range (went to work and then to the range). Uh oh -- that was a non-registered semi-auto. I was so ignorant of DC gun laws back then. But even if I had known it was illegal to own a gun if I lived in DC my response would have been, "good thing I don't live in DC". Good thing my car never broke down.
 
I have. The charge was CPWL (carrying a pistol without a license). In DC there is not a right to carry a handgun on public space (ie:concealed carry).

The other charge you see is unregistered firearm. You may register a rifle and a shotgun and keep them as legal.

I am not trying to advocate or support the laws in DC... Did you know I can arrest you if you leave your license at home while driving?(Failure to exhibit permit).

I am one of the most conservative people on this board. I am willing to bet that I am more pro 2nd than most here.

I personally believe that all people should be allowed to carry guns all the time anywhere they wish to go... including airliners. I also believe that people who do not own guns(or defensive items) should pay a fee for service to the municipality that gunowners would be exempt from.

I also live in DC.... So I know it sucks. I carry my duty weapon, which I feel is unfair to the rest, but I am also responsible for their safety off duty, wherever I may be. It's draining being "on call/guard" 24/7.

My pocket knife is 3" or less and I play by the rules.. my toys have been abandoned and I keep only a registered shotgun and rifle. It sucks and I will be moving hopefully soon.

I deal with criminals. I do not seek out or spend time with good citizens. There are two types. Criminals and people who make mistakes... I know the difference. I will not admit to looking the other way because sure as **** IAD will jam me up.

Know this

I am an American first and a cop second.

-Coop

If and when I feel I can not uphold the constitution I will walk. One must always check themselves to make sure they haven't set off course in life. I am already thinking about law school. I am interested in Constitutional Law and wouldn't mind a job with the NRA.
 
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Puerto Rico limits its citizens to two handguns only.

Don't see why DC can't limit them to just one.

Both are under Federal gun laws
 
If DC tried to limit the number one can own, then they are in for it because people moving in from other states with their numerous firearms would not be allowed to possess their own property the Supreme Court just said they have a Constitutional right to possess.
 
For crying out loud - somebody from DC force this issue and let's get this continual whining about Fenty and his rules over with. If half the time and energy spent whining about DC had been directed to actually DOING SOMETHING this problem would be half dealt with.

Talk about sheep - BAH, BAH, BAH.
 
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