Few days ago I did witness something that got me very scared...

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I have shot the Beretta in the military and since I retired.
Mec_Gar does make Beretta magazines as well as many others including CZ and Sig. They have a reputation of reliability.

Jacking cartridges out of the mag with your thumb is not that same as the feeding during the slide cycle. Cartridges can get 'cocked' or out of alignment when thumbing them out , especially with higher capacity mags with longer springs.

You may have a bad mag/spring or not. If it always shoots smoothly, I would suggest it's probably the 'or not'.

I drop my mags to the ground for mag changes, so I don't like oil in the mags--some do; but a few grains of dirt/sand can cause wear and feeding problems. Dry lubes or liquid car wax lubricate just as well with no build-up.

There are no perfect manufacturing processes, but the Beretta is a very reliable pistol.
 
Tell your friend to keep the mags at less than capacity while in storage. Springs don't cost much but why cause undue stress on them if it's not needed. Anyone needing more than 30 rounds for HD needs more practice and fewer neighbors.

My ultra-reliable auto loader is a Remington 1100 I got for my 14th birthday. 24 years later it has yet to need any replacement parts including the O-ring. EVERYONE's MWV, that is why we test before we trust.
 
Does that mag spring have a preferred way of sitting in the mag, are the two ends (top/bottom) exactly the same?

Mike
 
It COULD be the mag............clean it, lube it with DRY silicone spray.

Or it could be the AMMO. Sometimes, a certain bullet is too long or just gets stuck once it gets past a certain point.
 
sxcamaro05 said:
I'm 99% positive this is an unassuming opinion with no factual base. I know a good 5 service men and women using Berettas (over glocks/mp's) and 2 gentlemen working in private security doing the same.

I never understood the Beretta hate, they are very nice firearms. Well made, fire nicely, and are very low on FTF/FTE problems (unlike other arms). Pick up a Beretta and try one before you start spitting out random junk.

jl1966 said:
Very few people who shoot regularly, and have a choice of weapons, would go with Beretta. Military and law enforcement agencies have a lot of different criteria that is not concerned with constant reliability. When I say people who shoot regularly, I am not talking about popping away at a target a few rounds a month. I am talking about 100s of rounds a month, 1000s a year, in competition or training.
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Ummm ... I gotta agree with jl1966. I haven't seen a Beretta used for match shooting in a loooooong time. Most of the platforms used are 1911, Glock, M&P, XD, etc. Some CZ. Don't remember when I last saw a Sig or HK either. Why? Not really sure, but there must a good reason. ;)
 
Most of the platforms used are 1911, Glock, M&P, XD, etc. Some CZ. Don't remember when I last saw a Sig or HK either. Why? Not really sure, but there must a good reason.
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I blame gunsmith availability. No really, I kid you not.
I bet you couldn't find a single gunsmith on this board who is *not* at least very familiar with the 1911 and Glock-esque platform.
You find me one who knows even more than the average sales rep about a Beretta and I'd be impressed. The *only* reason I've had work done on my Berettas is because my local one loves them, personally.
The same goes for the Sig and HK. Walk into the average smith and tell them you want some tuning done on a Beretta, Sig or HK and they look at you like you're from Mars.
Tell them you want an in-depth of the tuning of a 1911 or Glock and they'll tell you to come back in three hours when it's done.

Gun usage is determined by a lot of things and one major one of those is logistical concerns. Why would I heavily use any tool that I can't have fixed?! It has ZERO to do with the platform and EVERYTHING to do with the availability of skilled labor, parts and replacements, should the need arise.

Of course, this may be waaay over most average shooter's paygrades ... most buy a 1911 because their daddy, their grand daddy and their neighbors, as well as all their shooting buddies swear by it. They buy it because there is no alternative in their mind.
 
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Contact Beretta USA, replace the magazine.

Magazines are the weak point of any semi auto and sometimes they fail. That's why we buy spares.
 
I'm going to comment on an earlier poster that says that the military doesn't shoot thousands of rounds a year. You do realize the United States is in a War right? Two of them actually. Don't you think in a fire fight you might fire off hundreds of rounds in a single day? Wouldn't that give cause to have reliable weapons?

I hope I don't need to explain to you that during a fire fight soldiers and Marines usually fire their weapons.
 
I'm going to comment on an earlier poster that says that the military doesn't shoot thousands of rounds a year. You do realize the United States is in a War right? Two of them actually. Don't you think in a fire fight you might fire off hundreds of rounds in a single day? Wouldn't that give cause to have reliable weapons?

I hope I don't need to explain to you that during a fire fight soldiers and Marines usually fire their weapons.
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While true, I think you (seriously) overestimate how much use the handguns see. The handgun is a rarely used backup for when you get separated from your rifle. In the past the #1 reason I've always heard brought out when debating on replacing the M9 pistol is simple: the ones we already have purchased are rarely used anyways. Why bother?
 
Mec-gar makes Beretta 92FS mags but they do not make the factory mags. I believe the factory mags are made by MDS which Beretta owns.
 
I have a Beretta PX4 Storm F, a CX4 carbine and an 84FS Cheetah as well as a Browning BDA that was made by Beretta. They have all been superb weapons that shoot well and function reliably.
 
I read about a lot of bad mags with the military 92s.
Too bad we couldn't have gone with the CZ75...
 
The reason military M9 magazines have a bad reputation is simple - every armorer I've seen just throws them in a box and ignores them while they collect dirt. Then that box gets dragged out to the range and Joe wonders why he's getting Failures to Feed. Additionally, M9 mags will rust unlike M16 mags - most Soldiers don't appreciate that they should actually clean those once in a while...
 
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