Finally, a scope/CZ Trainer combo that I like

[Danny Creasy]

I usually keep my hogsbacked stocked CZ rimfires scope free because I don't like the fit of the low comb relative to scoped shooting. I always like to keep the marvelous fixed sights intact as well. So, if the optic has to clear the rear sight, the rings usually have to be high or with low rings, the scope has to be small and mounted pretty far back so that it does not contact the rear sight.

I was looking at a set of Millett medium height rings that were currently gathering dust and I thought they may enable my little Weaver RV-7 (2.5-7X28mm) to ride quite far forward and just clear the rear sight. It worked. I took the combo to the range today with a couple of boxes of SK Std Plus and had a great time shooting the Trainer.

Here is the bench set up:


The objective bell just clears the rear sight:


Best group of the day - .427" ctc group fired at 50 yards with SK Std Plus - I decided to lower the elevation one click and then fired the last group of the day - .477" ctc ( I let the factory trigger get the best of me on the errant shot that went a little low and left:


The Millett rings are 3/8ths inch tip off models, but the thin steel jaws (adjustable from both sides) simply carry to the back of the 11 mm tip off grooves and bite decisively. This is a most comfortable and shootable combo for me. I finished up the day repeatedly pinging the 100 yard 6 inch spinners from the offhand position using a high hold. I just placed the tapering part of the lower reticle on the targets and lobbed the standard velocity slugs into the steel targets.

You know what? CZ ships out a fine rifle straight from the factory. Sometimes I take this for granted, and I really shouldn't.

PS: I had the scope set on 7 power.

 

[ColtPythonElite]

I would just pop rear sight out.

 

[R H Clark]

Yep, pop the rear out. All you have to do is push down on it, and slide it straight out.

 

[chicharrones]

I have a 452 Trainer, too. I like what you did there, Danny. How's the eye relief with that set up?

I hate taking off rear sights if I don't have to. You never know if while you're away and the wife thinks your loose ends gun stuff is trash.

 

[Danny Creasy]

"I have a 452 Trainer, too. I like what you did there, Danny. How's the eye relief with that set up?

I hate taking off rear sights if I don't have to. You never know if while you're away and the wife thinks your loose ends gun stuff is trash."

Eye relief with the little Weaver is 3.62 inches. I love the way I can really get up forward on the stock now. When I used low mounted options that had to be behind the rear sight, I felt like my head was too far back.

As to the suggestions to remove the rear sight. I want the open sights all zeroed and ready to go in case something happens to the scope while afield. That's the niche this rifle will fill for me. I bent one of the little Allen wrenches that fit the Millett screws around my key ring to expedite scope removal if scope removal is called for out and about. I wouldn't want to tote around the tangent.


According to Weaver's spec sheet:

Specifications for Weaver Rimfire RV 7 2.-7x28mm Dual-X Rifle Scope:
Magnification: 2.5x to 7x
Objective Lens: 28mm
Finish: Matte (849431) or Silver (849432)
Reticle: Dual-X
Exit Pupil: 9.9mm to 4mm
Field of View: 40.3' to 14.6' at 100 yards
Eye Relief: 3.62"
Length: 11"
Click Value: 1/4" at 100 yards
Adjustment Range: 52.36" at 100 yards
Weight: 9.75oz

 

[flashhole]

Nicely done. I put the same scope on a CZ 455 that my daughter shoots at the 4-H matches. She kicks butt. Here she is with a fox she shot that was eating her chickens. One shot at about 70 yards when she was "on guard duty" sitting on the barn roof. Great little scope for the money and can't say enough about the accuracy of the CZs either.

 

[Danny Creasy]

Awesome. I taught my girls (now both in their mid-twenties) to shoot with .22 rifles. The older daughter liked a scoped CZ American, but her favorite was my old Marlin 39A with a Williams peep sight on it. The younger always preferred semi-autos. Her favorite was a scoped Remington 552, but she liked the Winchester 190 as well, and that is what she is shooting in a fun match, along side her big sister, in the picture below: