Finally! Ruger has a 357 mag bolt rifle!

[wcavasos]

I can't even express how I feel about this. Went to the ruger website for a good look at their sr9 out of curiosity and what do I see? An advertisement for there new 77/357 rifle. A bolt action obviously designed aroung their model 77 bolt rifle in a carbine style short barrelled rifle. This is great considering that the lever guns in 357 are so hard to find around here. A bolt rifle is pretty cool in this cartridge in my opinion. I guess I just wanted to share the good news... Bill

 

[ants]

No biggie. We all do that once in a while.

I do wonder if they'll use the short-action receiver in that model line.

 

[MachIVshooter]

The whole point of .357 in a rifle is to have decent ballistics with higher magazine capacity and faster handling characteristics than the more powerful rifle cartridges. This is why lever actions are the platform.

This thing is worthless, IMO. When left to develop a new product without ripping off another manufacturer's design, Ruger is seriously coming up short.

 

[Shear_stress]

The whole point of .357 in a rifle is to have decent ballistics with higher magazine capacity and faster handling characteristics than the more powerful rifle cartridges. This is why lever actions are the platform.

I agree with you to an extent, but you could just as easily argue that the point of a .357 rifle is to have a light, low-recoiling long gun that uses the same round as a sidearm. If that's the goal than Ruger has succeeded. Calling it "worthless" because it fit doesn't your particular definition of what the rifle should do is stretching it.

 

[plateshooter]

People buy guns to buy guns. Weather they "need" a certain gun is a non issue to many people. I don't think Ruger would be in business if they didn't study their market to determine what would sell. For those who like bolt rifles and reload 357 already, it probably would make a fun addition to their collection. I had all of the guns I needed 40 years ago. I acquired the rest of my guns because I wanted them, and I enjoy them every day.

 

[JFrame]

I'm a bit torn on this one.

I have four .357 revolvers and a Winchester Trapper in .357 also...So a .357 bolt-gun would seem to be a natural "fit" for my safe. But a 5-shot .357 carbine retailing at $793 -- I dunno...

I'll be following the discussions on this carbine here and on other forums to see if a justification "sings out to me."


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[MachIVshooter]

Calling it "worthless" because it fit doesn't your particular definition of what the rifle should do is stretching it.

Hence the "IMO". If it floats someone elses boat, great.

I don't think Ruger would be in business if they didn't study their market to determine what would sell.

The history of discontinued firearms and chamberings would suggest that their research team is lacking. Ruger has a few staple firearms that keep them in business (10/22, M77, No.1, single-six, MK I/II/III, P85, Blackhawk, Redhawk, SP-101, GP-100). Most of the rest have had unspectacular sales. The mini used to fit in the former category, but with it's price increase leaving it to compete with AR's, it has been pretty much relegated to the status of "still produced because the tooling exists". Their only really successful designs of late weren't their designs at all.

I used to really like Ruger, but have since discovered that there are few things they make that someone else doesn't do better. However, it was experience with their "customer service" (lack thereof) that really left a sour taste in my mouth. I have half a dozen Rugers, that number is very unlikely to increase before I die (and I'm only 29)

 

[451 Detonics]

sorry about the duplicate post. I had not seen the original

Happens when folks don't title their posts with info on what the post contains...

Not really a surprise given the 77/44 has been made. Now if they had made it for the .357 Max that would of been nice.

 

[beatledog7]

Maybe they'll someday offer it in walnut or laminate for the wood lovers.

 

[HOWARD J]

Ruger seems to be really digging
I had a bolt action shotgun in the 50's-- I got rid of it fast for an auto.
I wouls rather have seen a deerfield auto 357 in lieu of a bolt action.
well, only sales total will tell.

 

[Sam1911]

Could be very cool ... if they have a fast-twist barrel so you can load a very heavy .358 cast bullet (210+ gr. or better) subsonic, and add a silencer.

Just like what the 77/44 would be very good for!

 

[wombat13]

Hence the "IMO". If it floats someone elses boat, great.



The history of discontinued firearms and chamberings would suggest that their research team is lacking. Ruger has a few staple firearms that keep them in business (10/22, M77, No.1, single-six, MK I/II/III, P85, Blackhawk, Redhawk, SP-101, GP-100). Most of the rest have had unspectacular sales. The mini used to fit in the former category, but with it's price increase leaving it to compete with AR's, it has been pretty much relegated to the status of "still produced because the tooling exists". Their only really successful designs of late weren't their designs at all.

I used to really like Ruger, but have since discovered that there are few things they make that someone else doesn't do better. However, it was experience with their "customer service" (lack thereof) that really left a sour taste in my mouth. I have half a dozen Rugers, that number is very unlikely to increase before I die (and I'm only 29)

That actually looks like a pretty good list of firearms that Ruger has. Also, left off the list are the LCR and LCP, which I think are selling pretty well. Whether the LCP is a Kel-tec clone or not, they are not in violation of any patents and it is selling well.

Which firearm manufacturer has a more complete line of firearms that sell well?

 

[Carl N. Brown]

There appears to be a market for the NEF single shot rifles in .357 so the market for bolt action .357 rifles may well exist too.

 

[Cosmoline]

I'm seeing references to 1:16 twist which isn't as fast as it could be but should be enough for 180's.

At this moment I am looking at about 2,000 empty .357 cases I'm in the process of cleaning and priming. There's only so much shooting you can do with the short guns, so maybe it's time to get a big box of Oregon Trail slugs, one of these carbines and see what it can do.

 

[TexAg]

I think if the price point were around $500-$600 they'd sell a lot more to folks willing to pick them up for truck, ranch, camp, or plinking guns.

 

[ColtPythonElite]

I love the .357 round and probably have more guns chambered in that round than the average bear. However, other than the whole "carry one ammo" arguement, I find the gun "near" worthless as well....If I'm gonna tote around a fullsize centerfire, I might as well have more power and range with the round that goes in it.

 

[R.W.Dale]

The history of discontinued firearms and chamberings would suggest that their research team is lacking. Ruger has a few staple firearms that keep them in business (10/22, M77, No.1, single-six, MK I/II/III, P85, Blackhawk, Redhawk, SP-101, GP-100). Most of the rest have had unspectacular sales

No offense but what does Winchester make now, How bout remington? Savage, Marlin. Rugers lineup of products is truly staggering when you compare it to the one trick pony other rifle makers Even your little list is about twice as long as these other lazy manufacturers nobody seems to want to lambaste.

How &^%&& long has it been since rem or wichester introduced something new? Here's a hint Eisenhower was president


And you guys really really need to learn the difference between MSRP and retail price. I bought a new 77/44 last month and only paid $580 tax and all OTD

Go ruger, I hope they introduce a plethora of absolutely usless and redundant chamberings for this most handy sized actions

 

[R.W.Dale]

...If I'm gonna tote around a fullsize centerfire, I might as well have more power and range with the round that goes in it.

This isn't a full sized gun the action used is only slightly larger than one for a .22LR and a LOT smaller and lighter than a 1895

These are even smaller than the CZ527 mini mauser action

 

[longdayjake]

I agree with Dale. I read that post and thought the exact same thing. Which company is doing better than Ruger? The only one that I can think of that comes close is S&W. Even then, the only rifle they offer is the AR.

 

[whetrock]

I'm just happy a modern manufacturer has produced a centerfire bolt action rifle with iron sites you realy don't see that much anymore but I see this gun appealing to the brush hunting crowd.

 

[desidog]

I've been thinking about breaking my C+R buying streak with a Lefty Ruger GunSite Scout...so at that rate, maybe they'll offer this 77/357 in lefty in a year or two.

This would be a great platform for 7.62x25 Tok as well.

 

[Smith357]

I like the idea, I've been loading the .357 for 20 years, I would like it better if it were in the $4-500 range. If they ever make one that was blue steel and walnut rather than stainless and plastic I might just be swayed enough to buy one, but for me plastic parts on my guns are a deal breaker.

 

[Dobe]

This thing is worthless, IMO. When left to develop a new product without ripping off another manufacturer's design, Ruger is seriously coming up short.

I'd take a light weight bolt action over a lever action. A detachable magazine is a plus also.

 

[Z-Michigan]

I like this concept. I'm very disappointed that they chose to use the awful sights from the 10/22 instead of the much better sights from the Mini-14/Ranch Rifle. At least it includes scope rings. I would also shorten the barrel a bit since .357 Magnum isn't gaining much from 16" to 18". I would like to see 16.2" or so. It's not hard for them to make the barrel a bit longer for Canadian sales if it's needed.

 

[courtgreene]

not living in one of those states I can't be sure, but wouldn't this be right up some one's ally if they live in one of the places that only lets people use rifles in pistol cartridges? I was thinking of a .357 lever just in case i ever move to one, but with this, I would have to rethink that strategy. after i let others work out the kinks of course.