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The Grass Is Greener Where It's Allowed To Grow.

Part One.

Activism is the business of achieving change (or preventing change) through persuasion, embarrassment, reason, and so forth.

It requires that enough people make enough noise insisting on the matters at issue that those who claim to represent them have little choice but to comply with the wishes of their constituents.

In order for people to make any kind of noise at all, they must first feel that there's some point to it all, some need of the action, and some consequence of failing to act.

To convince or persuade people that there's something worth getting lit up about, one must have some way of communicating to them, and something to say that will a) be heard, b) get their attention, c) resonate enough that they will be inclined to act.

In order to be heard and achieve resonance the right words and mood have to be used.

To discover what those words are, one must either watch and listen to a large group for an extended time, or one must ask for the words. To discover the mood or tone, one must observe and listen, not only to what is said, but how it is said.

How do you ask for the words?

Well, what you DON'T do is construct "surveys" with loaded questions and evocative wordings that you hope will get answers that "make your point" for you.

We hear constantly about "grass roots movements" and find ourselves invited and encouraged to participate in somebody's bright idea for "grass roots" activism.

Fabulous. Someone plants some seeds, tells you to water and cut the grass, and calls it a "grass roots" event. Except that nobody asked the grass what it thought of all this. If the roots are supposed to belong to the grass, then why isn't the grass doing the growing? Why all this effort to cultivate this growth?

In order for a "grass roots" movement to mean anything, the grass has to want to grow, as opposed to having someone water and groom it to "make it grow my way."

The grass is greener where it's allowed to grow. Not where it's "made" to grow.

So, again, how do you ask for the words?

Remember the part about "resonating?"

It comes down to "what's important to you?"

And that will be the main part of the question.

The other part of the question will be "about what?"

You want to encourage a person to take some action regarding a gun control law. So, do you ask him what's important about gun control? Uh, no. In fact, yuck, no.

What's our objective? The complete restoration of the original intent of the constitution. Great. Not something that's likely to get any broad traction.

Well, what derives from the constitution? Personal liberty. Individual rights of the citizens (yes, I know, the rights precede the document, but let it be for now). Security of person and property. The ability of the common man to protect his family and his own person.

In the context of arms, the security of a free state. Further, preservation of our way of life. And, though it may not be perfect, that objective will probably work for most people, regardless of their surface politics.

Now, you know what that is for YOU.

That will resonate with some. Like, say, a large chunk of the THR membership. The choir, so to speak.

Alright, how do you ask for THEIR words?

You start by asking them what's important about . . . [some condition].

What's important to you about preserving our way of life?

What's important to you about individual liberty?

What's important to you about living the life you want?

Of course, there's the business of the laws we have to deal with, so . . .

What's important to you about legislation with regard to individual rights?

What you're trying to do is "harvest" key words and phrases, along with the mood or "tone" with which they're stated.

However.

In order for this to be of any use, the question has to be uniform. You can't ask some people "what's important about liberty" and ask another bunch "what's important about laws and rights" and get any kind of meaningful word or phrase distribution.

So, in the balance of this thread, let's craft the question that asks for the words that will resonate with the people we want to persuade.

What's important to you about . . .

Let's see what we can come up with.

Once we have that, we'll move on to part two.
 
Communicating in a manner that everybody relates to on a very basic and primal level is absolutely essential.

Self preservation defines life in it's most fundamental description. There is no question that for someone to stay alive, and negotiate the perils of the environment, one must somehow know how to survive.
 
self preservation, yes, but also the safety and protection of those you love. This is an important chord along with liberty.
 
Form Of The Question

You know, I hate it when I so completely fail to articulate what I mean.

Here's what I'm trying to do:

I want to find the words that will resonate with people who have not given much (or any) thought to gun ownership and/or self defense, and who therefore don't see any reason why it's their problem or why they should do anything about it.

In order to get these words, I'm crafting a question that will ask them to say what THEY think is important.

I'm just building that question.

"What is important to you about . . . "

I'm not asking what is important to YOU guys, I'm asking YOU GUYS to help me fill in that blank above.

I want to be able to take that question and ask the man in the street, "what is important to you about [bananas]" and have him say something like, "YELLOW is the most important thing about [bananas]."

What goes in that blank?

Hey, Mr. Man-In-The-Street, "What is important to you about . . . [keeping freedom in this country]?"

Hey, Mr. Man-In-The-Street, "What is important to you about . . . [your family's security]?"

Hey, Mr. Man-In-The-Street, "What is important to you about . . . [preserving the Bill Of Rights]?"

See?

The form of the question is the same, but the key word or phrase is different.

I need the key word or key phrase.

That's what I'm asking for.

If we're going to get any "grass roots" support, we're going to need for people to see this as their idea. For it to be their idea, it has to be their words. In order to get their words, we have to ask the question.

Help me find the question.
 
A good deal of talk going around about liberty and everyone assumes that the target audience will know what the questioner is talking about. Do they though? One must believe in liberty as more than just an abstract concept.
 
The problem with this sort of thing is the "myth of solidarity". Ask 50 folks-in-the-street about a certain topic and you'll get 36 different answers. They may all want the same thing but the why's and how to achieve's will be radically different.
 
You Still Ask The Question

I will invite you all to re-read the first post.

Then my second post.

I want a question.

The question will get ALL KINDS of answers.

The answers will contain KEY WORDS.

Certain words will occur more often than other words.

Those are the product of asking the question.

First, we need the question.

Fill in the blank.

"What is important to you about __________ ?"
 
"What is important to you about __________ ?"
protecting your family.

What do you consider the greatest immediate threat to your family?
What do you consider the greatest long term threat to your family?

What do you think provides the greatest short term protection to your family?

What do you think provides the greatest long term protection to your family?
 
What is important to you about...your family's physical safety/security?
...your freedom in society?
...your ability to communicate your wishes to your representatives?
 
Good posts Arfin. Let's see if I can add anything:

"What is most important to you about natural rights?"
"What is most important to you about American liberty?"
"What is most important to you about self-determination?"
 
Do free people reserve the right to keep and bear arms?

Are we, the people, ultimately responsible for the defense of country and liberty?
 
I don't think the average soccer mom is worried about "freedom" and "rights." As they said about the Romans, they don't care about great military victories in far-off lands but about the pebble in their sandal.

I think they care about their safety at home and when their kids are at school. To us that means being allowed to have self-defense tools. To them that is several steps of logic away from "being safe." We then have to follow-up and "connect the dots" in a credible way.
 
The Founding Fathers added the Second Amendment to the Bill of Rights to give citizens a defense against the tyranny of the state.

Attempts to obfuscate the issue in an effort to sway soccer moms or anyone else is a definite no-no.

If we leave the impression that we think that the right to keep and bear arms is merely about allowing us to intimidate street gangs, thugs, and other assorted lowlifes, we will actually contribute to the false view that the Second Amendment is a historical curiosity.
 
Arfin..

I believe I understand your request, but I also think the answer is more complex than you are looking for.
I doubt a single question is the correct answer. I think a carefully crafted questionaire with multiple questions would be more productive. Not everyone reads the same question the same way, interprets a particular word the same way or views a photograph exactly the same way. A diversity of questions would help mediate the problem. Also, you may find it beneficial to include "throw away" questions having little or no collection value. Psychologists commonly use such questions to disguise the true objective for the survey in an attempt to get answers which are not "what you want to hear" or "just trying to screw with the survey" answers.
The multiple question survey would also help cross reference repeat words or phrases would to give you the "harvest" you are looking for.

There are members here on THR that are professionals at this sort of thing. I am sure they will offer their expertise.

I hope this is helpful.

Poper
 
While I've always enjoyed target shooting, what got me to decide on a conceal carry permit was the realization that I'm middle-aged now and can't do things I used to do.

I had to face the facts that I'm too small to fight, too slow to run, and that I couldn't live with myself if my incapacity allowed one of my kids to be kidnapped or my teenage daughter to be raped. Its not right for a grown woman to rely on her 16yo son for protection when her husband is out. Not to mention that the kid (who is, BTW, 6'2" and very capable), isn't always home.

I don't know the phrasing to use, but you'll reach moms through their desire to protect their kids.
 
What's important to me? Here's how I'd run a grass roots campaign.

First, I'd get a movie production company funded by people who support second amendment rights.

Then I'd produce the movie so as to shatter the misleading and typical stereotype about Americans who own arms, know how to use them, and who are willing to use them in self defense or in defense of our nation.

You know the stereotype I'm indicating. The one that shows the gun owner as the hillbilly in the movie Deliverance, or who poaches bears out of season, who hates people of color, and is abusive of others in the local bar.

[That's it in a nutshell. Man, I'm late for the Chess Club!]:what:
 
whats the one thing that you can do to protect your family?

What are you afraid of the most ?
 
Arfin, asking "What is important to you about . . . [your family's security]?" or something like that is likely to get you looked at like you are a moron.

Perhaps the kind of question you're looking for is "Do you think you have too much freedom right now?" or "What freedoms do you have now that you would be willing to give up?" or "Would you like the freedom to make more of your own choices about your family's needs or would you like the government to make more of those choices on their and your behalf?"

I think this might frame the discussion the right way, from the beginning.

JR
 
Getting Ahead Of Ourselves

John Ross (and others), the "what is important to you about ______ ?" question isn't calibrated to persuade. It's calibrated to get key words.

The LATER questions are constructed using the key words.

Most surveys are built from loaded questions crafted of the finest wild-ass guesses and assumed "hot" buzz words.

People don't think of their lives and circumstances in terms of "buzz words" or fad terminology. When you ask individuals INDIVIDUALLY what they think, what they need, what they fear, or what they want, you don't get "fad" (or "group think") answers. You get THEIR answers, in their own words.

If you want to get their attention later on, it helps a great deal if you happen to have the words THEY, THEMSELVES, WOULD USE to phrase your questions or suggestions.

I'm not trying to construct a question that will get me the "lazy eye" from those I ask. I'm trying to construct a question that will get a heartfelt, even passionate, answer whose words will be the right words for that guy.

I want a word or phrase that goes in the blank:

"Hey, Man-In-The-Street, what's important to you about _____________ ?"

The word(s) that goes there is the word(s) that represent the benefit or advantage provided by our bill of rights -- most pertinently, the Second Amendment -- in such a way that Mr. Man-In-The-Street will recognize it as needful or desirable, not half-baked crazy.

Your suggested question of . . .
"Do you think you have too much freedom right now?"
. . . might well be right on, but you won't know that until you get the key words from the first question.

Ask the wrong guy, and "freedom" could well be something that government exists to curb in excess.

For some, "freedom" will be a key word. For others, "security" or maybe "safety" might be that word.

Which is why you ask the "what's important" question.

Heck, you know, the "key word" question might be something as plain as, "what's important to you about the Constitution?"

That's what I'm trying to determine with Part One of this exercise.
 
What is important to you about ...*your family's safety.*

I think that goes to the heart of it.
 
Another Approach

Let me try something else.

There's a tremendous amount of experience and expertise on the board, and no shortage of educated and learned -- even articulate -- members.

So, let's get some words from you guys.

What's a word or phrase, something brief, not whole sentences, not a paragraph, but a word (or phrase) that expresses the primary benefit or advantage that derives from having our Constitution & Bill Of Rights? In a word or two, what's the great thing about our "way of life?" What thing, if we lost it, would make life intolerable? (Or, if we've already lost it, what do we need to get back?)

[strike]Better schools[/strike]? Nah.
[strike]Affordable electronics[/strike]? Nah.
Personal security? Maybe . . . we'll keep that for now.
[strike]100% employment[/strike]? Gads.
[strike]Diversity in entertainment[/strike]? What?
The life of your choosing? Hmmm. Keep that for now.
[strike]Affordable medical care[/strike]? Yeah. Right.
[strike]Sports[/strike]? Hello?
[strike]Wide selection of cars[/strike]? Is this thing on?
Choosing our government? Okay, hang onto that one.
[strike]Education for all[/strike]?
Rich opportunity for our kids?

More suggestions?

Anyone?
 
Hey Arfin

The key word/ phrase you want, is "civil rights" or
or "civil liberties".

However, the difficulty is that in American culture, "civil rights" is a key phrase, a critical phrase, that is associated with the treatment of minorities. The majority of the population does not think of the 2nd Amendment in terms of a "civil right"; but that is exactly what the current Supreme Court case is considering.

When we, in these forums, mention RKBA ("right to keep and bear arms") we are discussing a civil right. Gun control activism is best characterized, by us, as an attempt to deprive us of our civil rights.

This is precisely how one might best couch the issues for dialogue, and the questions for surveys. :)


[ :uhoh: Whut? You don't agree? :what: Whut?:uhoh: Listen here Sweety, it's my way or the highway! :banghead: I'm clingin to my guns and religion! ]:D
 
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