Finn marked 91/30 and the sins of Bubba.
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It's been a few years since I got my Pine Tar. A member of SRF ordered a large can and I bought mine from him.
Tom's Pine Tar Mix is some great stuff. A few years ago I spent some time on the phone with Tom, talking about how I was making a pine tar mix using his 1/3 Mix. Tom was able to come up with a recipe that works.
As I was typing this, I gave Tom a call. We hadn't talked in a few yeas. We shot the bull for a while, catching up with whats been going on in our lives. When I told Tom that I needed to place an order, he said that I had earned a life time supply of Tom's Mix years ago and he would be shipping some to me in the next day are two. So, I'll wait for Tom's Finn mix to arrive to finish off the stock.
Thanks. After DeaninDallas posted about it, I have wanted to try it for a few years just because. I also have some furniture that it might look good on after refinishing.
morcey2
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I just got mine from a local saddle and tack shop. It's not specifically formulated for wood finishing, but it works.
Matt
I've seen some via vet supplies but did not know whether additional gunk was in it.
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That's for hovels. Too much other stuff mixed in it. And when it goes bad, it stinks.
This is the brand that I use. You can buy it here.
https://www.solventfreepaint.com/pine-tar.htm
morcey2
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Are you saying I live in a small, squalid, unpleasant, or simply constructed dwelling? I'm offended!
(I'm assuming you meant "hooves". If you truly meant "hovels", I'm not sure what to think. If you meant "shovels", I'm thoroughly confused.
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I believe that pine tar is used to seal the hooves during wet seasons to prevent thrush from what I remember.Are you saying I live in a small, squalid, unpleasant, or simply constructed dwelling? I'm offended!
(I'm assuming you meant "hooves". If you truly meant "hovels", I'm not sure what to think. If you meant "shovels", I'm thoroughly confused.
Matt
Gunny, thanks that is the stuff that I saw somewhere online but one gallon would last me until the end of time.
Just out of curiousity, have you ever used birch oil for a finish?
theotherwaldo
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-You did notice the 32 ounce sample bottle for $20 bucks plus shipping, didn't you?
I'm going to have to invest in a bottle for finishing my primitive woodwork, plank doors, gun carriage, and other rustic items.
I love the aroma... .
I'm going to have to invest in a bottle for finishing my primitive woodwork, plank doors, gun carriage, and other rustic items.
I love the aroma... .
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I meant hooves.Are you saying I live in a small, squalid, unpleasant, or simply constructed dwelling? I'm offended!
(I'm assuming you meant "hooves". If you truly meant "hovels", I'm not sure what to think. If you meant "shovels", I'm thoroughly confused.
Matt
See what happens when I’m busy at work and don’t proofread.
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I’ve never used Birch oil, but I do use Pure Tung Oil.
Bwana John
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Its a Finn! I thought it was de riguere for Finn rifles to use ski base pinetar, a multiple use kind of thing.
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I didn’t get a chance to check the mailbox till late today, but in side was a gift from Tom. Some 1/3 Mix and some Pin Tar Mix.
I’ll apply a coat of the Pin Tar Mix tomorrow and take some pics.
I’ll apply a coat of the Pin Tar Mix tomorrow and take some pics.
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I got to work on the stock this morning. Boy does this stuff smell good.
Here it is before applying the pine tar mix.
Pine tar mix applied
Pine tar mix buffed two hours later
I may apply another coat, but will have to wait twenty four hours
Here it is before applying the pine tar mix.
Pine tar mix applied
Pine tar mix buffed two hours later
I may apply another coat, but will have to wait twenty four hours
Really brought out the cartouches. I like it.
shoobe01
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Gunny, great stuff. WAY too many posts/articles about stuff without enough detail. The stripping, for example, is what I'd do but it's good to see others.
For the other guns you showed on p1 you mentioned some oil finishes, but then moved on to the pine tar discussion. If just oiled, what oils do you tend to use?
For the other guns you showed on p1 you mentioned some oil finishes, but then moved on to the pine tar discussion. If just oiled, what oils do you tend to use?
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I use BLO and PTO (Pure Tung Oil).
Some will tell you that the military never used BLO, they used Raw linseed oil. And those that say that are correct, kind of.
GIs were issued raw linseed oil, but it took forever to dry so, they would add mineral spirits or something els to help it dry faster. What they were doing was, making BLO.
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I finished the stock with a second coat of Tom’s Pin Tar Mix.
And here are some before and after pics.
And here are some before and after pics.
Bitrclngr
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Wow that turned out nice!
1976B.L.Johns.
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Thanks for posting, looks good...and having the forethought to take the "before" pictures. One can always take the "after" pics. haha.
TxRoadDog
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I used to be really into collecting Mosins but had to stop for a few years. Man what a great looking rifle now that you cleaned up the mistakes of bubba. Tom lives in the same town I live in, but I have not talked to him in close to 10 years. I just finished off my last can of 1/3rd mix on an SKS stock. I may need to reach out to him.
Looking forward to a range report with this rifle.
Looking forward to a range report with this rifle.
caribou
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Im not one to alter a good milsurp, but those that have had doings needing undone are numerous.
Ive never been one that's good at refinishing wood, but I can make good quality repairs to wood, mostly from my experience in sled building and other type woodwork.
Theres always something to learn, and this is a good, basic tutorial.
Thanks! its a beautifull rifle.
Ive never been one that's good at refinishing wood, but I can make good quality repairs to wood, mostly from my experience in sled building and other type woodwork.
Theres always something to learn, and this is a good, basic tutorial.
Thanks! its a beautifull rifle.
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Gunny
Very nice restoration work! Also like the "Before" and "After" photos!
Very nice restoration work! Also like the "Before" and "After" photos!
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Just a little update.
The brass ends on the handguard were brightly polished when I bought the rifle and after the restoration the bright brass really looked out of place.
I tried a few things, with no luck, to get them tarnished.
The only thing I had not tried was vinegar and salt. The problem is that it’s the fumes from the vinegar and salt that causes the brass to tarnish. I didn’t have a tub that the handguard would fit in other then a very large one.
I ended up using a small plastic bottle with a large mouth. I added about three tablespoons of vinegar and a teaspoon of salt and tapped the one end of the handguard above the vinegar just inside the bottle and used blue painters tape to seal the bottle. It took about 3 hours for each side, but they came out great.
Now it looks correct.
The brass ends on the handguard were brightly polished when I bought the rifle and after the restoration the bright brass really looked out of place.
I tried a few things, with no luck, to get them tarnished.
The only thing I had not tried was vinegar and salt. The problem is that it’s the fumes from the vinegar and salt that causes the brass to tarnish. I didn’t have a tub that the handguard would fit in other then a very large one.
I ended up using a small plastic bottle with a large mouth. I added about three tablespoons of vinegar and a teaspoon of salt and tapped the one end of the handguard above the vinegar just inside the bottle and used blue painters tape to seal the bottle. It took about 3 hours for each side, but they came out great.
Now it looks correct.
theotherwaldo
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I save a few used black powder cleaning patches for tarnishing brass and copper. Just re-moisten with water and rub down the shiny spots, then leave it to dry. Repeat until you get the finish that you want..
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