Firearm microstamping bill coming up in MA - act now!

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GOAL announced today that a firearm microstamping measure be enacted in MA as of 2010. We have all the details on our Freedom Blog here:

http://www.zombieoutfitters.net/freedomblog.html

Check out the links in the blog to read the bill - and also the link to find your MA rep and senator.

WRITE YOUR POLITICIAN TODAY!


Here is a sample letter:

It has come to my attention that a new bill has been filed and currently has about 10 co-sponsors. The bill is H.2247 “An Act to Improve the Ballistic Database through Microstamping Ammunition.”

This bill is intended, among other things, to require the micro-stamping of each case fired out of a firearm by a specialized firing pin in the firearm. This is slated to become effective in 2010 and after such date firearms without micro-stamping capability may not be “delivered to a licensed dealer”. The fate of older non-microstamping firearms is unknown.

This bill will significantly impair the already heavily restricted LEGAL trade of firearms in the state of MA. Not only will it significantly increase the cost of each firearm, but it will severely limit the firearms manufacturer’s ability to bring viably priced products to market. The firearms market is a thriving market that should be valued.

The intention is to allow casings left after a firearm is fired that will identify the firearm it was fired in. First let me say that this bill will stand to impact hundreds of thousands of law-abiding citizens and business owners. This won’t stop a criminal from committing a crime in any way. There are too many ways criminals could evade this technology and it won’t substantially aid in prosecution.

If criminals collect fired cases at the scene of a crime or firearms are stolen from lawful owners then this technology is useless. Additionally the technology is too easily tampered with – just like serial numbers can be defaced. Even though microstamped cases could theoretically be traced to a firearm (if not tampered with or collected), without the actual weapon used in the crime this technology will be minimally helpful in criminal prosecution above current methods, if at all.

Current ballistics can already tie a bullet to the firearm it was fired in. Having non-microstamped spent casings can already help with finger printing and ballistics. Micro-stamping is useless information that would NOT add to criminal prosecution in any significant degree enough to warrant the BROAD AND DISASTROUS impact this bill will have on the already struggling and heavily restricted firearms industry in Massachusetts.

What this bill then leaves is the creation of another law attacking the lawful gun owners of Massachusetts and little if any effective use for this bill in honest crime prevention. The VAST OVERWHELMING majority of gun owners are NOT the problem when it comes to handgun violence. So punish the criminals, not law-abiding citizens.

As a law-abiding citizen I cannot tell you how disappointed I am to have my rights under the second amendment consistently challenged by this state. Massachusetts legislators have already made it extremely difficult for firearms manufacturers to bring new products to market in this state. Now we see proposed legislation to further restrict those manufacturers and products.

As your constituent I ask you, please DO NOT SUPPORT bill H.2247. Please help to make sure our rights under the SECOND amendment are preserved from further erosion. Please support the law abiding gun-owners of Massachusetts.

Let’s make laws that punish criminals and address crimes. Lets NOT waste our time making laws that only effect law-abiding citizens and hard-working American industry.
 
If I was a criminal and intended to commit a crime with a micro-stamper gun, I'd just be careful to keep track of my spent cases.

Or, here's another brilliant idea, I'd just use a non micro-stamper gun.

By the way, how difficult would it be for a criminal to swap the firing pin out of a micro-stamper gun, or otherwise alter the pin so that it didn't stamp.
 
Stopping crime isn't the point.

The point is to make it too expensive for firearm manufacturers to be able to sell into Mass.

Nasty stuff.
 
I would suggest adding

Independent, peer verified studies as opposed to vendor performed unchecked "sales" studies have stated unequivocally that this technology is fundamentally flawed and incapable of meeting any legal base for conviction.

The two main studies are by

George G. Krivosta, of the Suffolk County Crime Laboratory in New York, published and peer reviewed in the American Firearms and Toolmark Examiner's Journal.

University of California, Davis (Graduate Group in Forensic Science), independantly reviewed by three reviewers in the forensics field

The UC-Davis findings also directly called into question the pricing estimates given by the manufacturer and the usefulness of the serial number information in solving gang shootings.
 
everallm,

Since I don't have convenient access to either of the two studies you cited, could you please provide a brief summary of their general findings for why micro-stamping isn't forensically useful? I would be interested to know their reasons.
 
someone told me that the csi cant pull fingerprints off of spent shell casings ,anyone else know anything about that?
 
someone told me that the csi cant pull fingerprints off of spent shell casings ,anyone else know anything about that?

Brass expands when it fires, and contacts the walls of the chamber. Fingerprints are effectively wiped during extraction. On rotating bolt firearms, this is even more thorough. It MAY be possible to pull a fingerprint off a steel case, however.
 
the people of that state just need to vote out the idiots representing them.
 
the people of that state just need to vote out the idiots representing them.


Problem is that the people of that state have been voting them in for what seems like eons..


C
 
Stopping crime isn't the point.

The point is to make it too expensive for firearm manufacturers to be able to sell into Mass.

It would seem this is the case.
These antis are trying to use every back door they can
to attempt to keep firearms away from law abiding citizens.
 
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