• You are using the old High Contrast theme. We have installed a new dark theme for you, called UI.X. This will work better with the new upgrade of our software. You can select it at the bottom of any page.

Florida gun laws about to change

Status
Not open for further replies.
From 7/6/06:


TO: USF & NRA Members and Friends
FROM: Marion P. Hammer
NRA Past President
Executive Director Unified Sportsmen of Florida

We are very pleased to tell you that yesterday, Governor Jeb Bush (R) signed into law, SIX pro-gun and pro-hunting bills supported by NRA and Unified Sportsmen of Florida. That is a record number of major pro-gun & and pro-hunting bills passed in a single Florida legislative session under any Senate President or Speaker of the House and signed in one ceremony by any Governor in Florida.

Special thanks go to Senate President Tom Lee (R-10) and House Speaker Allan Bense (R-6) for their extraordinary help in passing these six bills to restore rights and freedoms to law-abiding firearms owners in Florida. The individual sponsors and co-sponsors of these bills deserve our gratitude for their efforts on our behalf.

We simply could not have done this without your help. Your work and responsiveness to our alerts and in sending email and making phone calls to legislators in support of these great bills made the difference. Thank you for answering freedom's call. These are the bills YOU HELPED PASS:

(1) HB-125 Hunter Voter Bill

A bill to make it easier for hunters and fishermen to register to vote. Passed the Florida Legislature 4/28/06.

HB-125 Sponsored by Representative Greg Evers (R-Milton) in the House and Senator Carey Baker (R-Eustis) in the Senate will offer people who buy resident hunting and fishing licenses three new opportunities to register to vote.

1. People who purchase a hunting or fishing license by phone will have the opportunity to have a voter registration form mailed to them.

2. People who purchase a hunting or fishing license online will have a link that takes them to a voter registration site.

3. People who purchase a hunting or fishing license from an agent authorized to sell hunting and fishing licenses, will be asked if they would like a voter registration application to take home and fill out and mail in later.

The bill passed the House 110-6 and passed the Senate 31-8. Signed into law by Governor Bush on 6/7/06.


(2) HB-265 No-Net-Loss of Hunting Lands

A bill to protect hunting lands and our hunting heritage. Passed the Florida Legislature 5/4/06.

HB-265 Sponsored by Representative Don Brown (R-DeFuniak Springs) in the House and Senator Nancy Argenziano (R-Crystal River) in the Senate does the following:

1. Establishes a baseline number of acres of public hunting lands, equal to the number of acres open for hunting on the effective date of this act.

2. Requires the Florida Wildlife & Conservation Commission (FWC) to find replacement hunting lands for any public hunting lands that are closed in the future so the number of hunting acres does not fall below the base line.

3. Requires FWC to try to find replacement hunting lands in the same region as the lost acreage and to the extent possible, allow the same type of hunting as was allowed on the closed land.

4. Requires state agencies and water management districts to assist and cooperate with FWC and allow hunting on lands they manage if the land is suitable for hunting. However, state parks are excluded from lands that may be used for replacement lands.

The bill passed the House 118-0 and passed the Senate 40-0. Signed into law by Governor Bush on 6/7/06.

(3) HB-285 No Confiscation of Firearms During Emergencies

A bill to prohibit confiscation of firearms following hurricanes (such as was done in New Orleans following Hurricane Katrina). Passed the Florida Legislature 5/3/06.

HB-285 Sponsored by Representative Mitch Needelman (R-Melbourne) in the House and Senators Carey Baker (R-Eustis) and Bill Posey (R-Rockledge) in the Senate does the following:

1. Amends the Emergency Management Powers Act to prohibit the governor from ordering or authorizing the seizure, taking, or confiscation of firearms that are lawfully possessed, unless a person is engaged in a criminal act.

2. Amends the Emergency Management Powers Act to prohibit any public official from ordering or authorizing the seizure, taking, or confiscation of firearms that are lawfully possessed, unless a person is engaged in a criminal act.

The bill passed the House 116-0 and passed the Senate 40-0. Signed into law by Governor Bush on 6/7/06.

(4) HB-687 Public Records Exemption of CCW License Holders Information

A bill to protect the privacy rights of concealed weapons and firearms license holders Passed the Florida Legislature 5/2/06

HB-687 Sponsored by Representative Sandy Adams (R-Orlando) in the House and Senator Mike Haridopolis (R-Melbourne) in the Senate does the following:

1. Exempts the personal identifying information (names, addresses, birth dates, social security numbers, phone numbers, & license numbers) contained in records maintained by the Division of Licensing of DOACS of individuals who have applied for or received licenses to carry concealed weapons or firearms.

2. Makes the data available to law enforcement for law enforcement purposes.

3. Stops harassment of license holders by the media. Protects license holders from identity theft, stalkers, domestic violence abusers and thieves.

In the past the media have posted names, addresses, birth dates, and other personal identifying information on websites and have printed them in newspapers. Such reckless conduct subjects license holders to possible identity theft, theft of firearms by criminals and tells domestic violence abusers and stalkers where to find victims who have moved to hide themselves and their children from these predators.

The bill passed the House 83-27 and passed the Senate 37-2. Signed into law by Governor Bush on 6/7/06.

(5) HB-1029 Firearms in National Forests & State Parks

A bill to restore the right to possess firearms for self-defense and other lawful purposes while in National Forests and State Parks in Florida. Passed the Florida Legislature 5/2/06.

HB-1029 Sponsored by Representative Dennis Baxley (R-Ocala) in the House and Senator Bill Posey (R-Rockledge) in the Senate does the following:

1. Repeals the law that bans firearms in National Forests in Florida (s. 790.11, 790.12, 790.14)

2. Directs the Department of Environmental Protection (DEP) to repeal its rule that bans firearms in State Parks (rule 62D-2.014(10).

3. Requires that all other applicable firearms laws be followed.

4. Requires that a new rule be formulated by DEP that allows firearms in state parks and stipulates that firearms shall at all times be in the possession of a responsible party or properly secured within or to a vehicle or temporary housing, which shall include motor homes, travel trailers, recreational vehicles, campers, tents, or other enclosed structures, while in state parks.

The law being repealed is obsolete. There are public shooting ranges in Florida's National Forests. FWC officers teach the firearms portion of Hunter Safety courses at these ranges and have been very concerned about violating this obsolete law. Further, there homes in National Forests and the old law violates their firearms rights. The DEP regulation that prohibits firearms in state parks VIOLATES state law (790.33)

The bill passed the House 90-27 and passed the Senate 31-6. Signed into law by Governor Bush on 6/7/06.

(6) SB-1290 Concealed Weapons/License Renewal for U.S. Armed Services Members

A bill to assist men and women serving on active duty in military service to our nation with renewal of their concealed weapons and firearms licenses.

SB-1290 Sponsored by Senator Mike Fasano (R-New Port Richey) in the Senate and Representative Marti Coley (R-Panama City) in the House does the following:

1. Applies only to men and women serving in the U.S. armed services, who are on active duty away from home.

2. Provides that concealed weapons and firearms licenses of such servicemembers will not expire while they are serving on military orders that have taken them away from home.

3. Extends such licenses for an additional 180 days after they return home from active duty assignment so that they may be renewed without late fees or penalties.

The bill passed the House 120-0 and passed the Senate 39-0. Signed into law by Governor Bush on 6/7/06.

Capital punishment means never having to say, "You again?"
 
I'm wondering how many refugees from New Orleans are in the areas with the high murder rates? We see what's happened in Houston, could the same be happening here?
Now, to get this back on track after the course change, come on down the laws are fine and getting better.

Tim
 
Florida laws aren't going to change. Us Floridians have gotten fed up with criminals, fed up with slow police responce times, and fed up with having to be a victim before we can act.

The PEOPLE of Florida asked for these laws. The PEOPLE of Florida voted them in.

We like them and they are staying that way.
 
Florida is, for the foreseeable future, going to be pro 2nd amendment.
There are just too many heavily armed gun nuts like me that are politically active and belligerent about it; now as far as our Federal senators are concerned…
 
Florida is a force meet force state. I am not spreading any misleading information. Even the Washington post & NY times billed it as "Shoot first ask questions later" policy. Before you attack a position, you should be aware of the policies and how cases have been treated according to the new policy (law). I've lived throughout FL (Jax Beach, East Orlando, Boca Raton) and know the laws pretty well.

Check these out and you will see why I say what I did previously:

Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/04/25/AR2005042501553.html

NPR -> And their liberal!
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4627356

BBC
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4415135.stm

LAW.com
http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1116246912951

NYtimes
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/07/us/07shoot.html?_r=2&ei=5087%0A&en=30d77f6590ae4aa7&ex=1155096000&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
 
Even the Washington post & NY times billed it as "Shoot first ask questions later" policy
Not exactly
Opponents call them “shoot first” laws.
That was the only reference to "Shoot First I Ask Questions Later" that I found
I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish with these links.
It doesn't take a lot of reading comprehension to see that they have a definite slant against the law.
With all there rhetoric they keep coming back to the main point, or rather glossing over it
any person "has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm."
And if retreat is reasonably available then it is no longer necessary, I can't see how that is hard to understand.

You have taken the bait
The argument was never that it was good that we could shoot first with minimal provocation.
The antis and Brady Bunch made that the argument and instead of saying that that is not what the law is about some cheered that it was about time.
Now when some yokel who gets his law education from mainstream newspapers shoots someone because Sarah told him he could they will have the ammo they need, that along with slanted stories of those that have had to use the law in their favor will help them fill their collection plates.

So to refute my argument that we should not help spread the propaganda of the antis you provide links from media sources with obvious ant leanings to support the propaganda you are helping to spread.
Living in Fla means nothing if your are getting your education from Washington and New York.

Talk to Sergeants with the local county Sheriff's dept, lawyers with the public defenders office and a police chief and sheriff or two as I have done and then come tell me that I should make myself aware of policies and how cases have been treated.

There is a tow truck driver being prosecuted for murder because he thought that he could shoot first and ask questions later. He wasn't the one asking the questions though. The DA was and didn't like his answers
 
Quoted from Dimitri: "One local gun club (Escambia River Muzzle Loaders) wants to move the gun range further north in Escambia Co. close to a small town called Century. Channel 3 concentrated on 2 Century residents who oppose the noise a gun range would bring. Never asked the local shops (who are in favor of the range) how they feel, or mentioned that 22% of the ERML members live in the north part of the county. Never mentioned that ERML held three drives in the last 24 months (state-side depandants of overseas military, food for hurricane displaced disabled war veterants in Pascagoula (MS), and toys for "Kathreena's littlest victims"."

While I agree with your assertion that local media is generally anti-gun, the above example simply is misleading. #1--The site for the proposed gun range is not just 'near a small town' but is, in fact, in the middle of a residential area that includes a church and an elementary school. #2--One of the residents interviewed is an 84-year old widow who lives on property which is surrounded on 2 sides by the proposed range. #3--Which local shops are in favor of the range? The only business nearby is a convenience store. Who cares if the businesses in the town of Century are in favor of it? The noise from the range certainly won't carry 4 miles which is at least the distance to the nearest 'shop' in Century. #4--22% of the club members live in the north end of the county. How many of them live within 2 miles of the proposed range? Zero. #5--Whatever charitable events the club sponsored is irrelevant to the issue at hand. I belong to a military family and many of our members volunteered with disaster relief immediately following both Ivan and Katrina. That doesn't give us the right to construct a firing range in a residential area. Finally, we are fiercely in favor of the rights of private citizens to own firearms. We own plenty of them ourselves. We moved here knowing we would, from time to time, hear the sounds of gunfire in the woods during hunting season. That is a far cry from what is proposed by the gun club who by their own admission plan to have the facility open to their 800 members seven days a week year round.
 
FWIT Dept:

Basically the same "no duty to retreat" law went into effect here in Georgia in July 2006. Ga & Fla recognize each other's concealed carry permits also.


My theory for self defense in the home is: NEVER shoot anybody for any reason OTHER than in defense of your life, or the life of your loved ones or other innocent persons.

My wife and I are senior citizens. We aren't as sharp as we once were, but we are far from stupid.. Therefore:

I am more than willing to retreat until "the cows come home" if that will prevent me from taking a life.. A bg can steal my possessions and safely walk away. I personally just will not take a person's life over possessions.

Having said that, I am very pleased the State of Georgia has firearms legislation allowing me to protect myself, those I love, and even strangers in harms way when I simply have no other choice..

For example, if someone breaks into our home, IF WE CAN, my wife and I have a plan. Our plan is to retreat into the master bedroom. We will lock the door and she will further retreat into the bathroom with her trusty Ruger Security Six 357 mag. and her cell phone. She will lock the door. She will dial 911 for help..... Anybody breaking down the bathroom door will be subject to 6 rds. of SJHP' Cor-Bons. And, my wife can shoot....

If my wife hears a firearm discharging she will NOT come out until reassured by myself, or leo's that she is safe. She will not put down her revolver until she is positive she is safe.

I will squat behind our bed with my High Standard 12ga pump riot shotgun loaded with #4 buckshot. I will point the shotgun at the bedroom door and at the first sign of anyone approaching the door I will call out that I am armed with a shotgun and LEO's have been called..

I will do nothing more until help arrives and proves who "They are" and assures me all is safe.

On the off chance that the bg choses to break down my bedroom door I have no choice but to fall back on plan b.

Plan B.. Shoot the sucker coming thru the door.
Oh yeah, we have another plan in case someone tries to break in our home and we can't get to the rear bedroom.. We'll just keep that to ourselves.

Best Wishes,

JP
 
PX15, I agree with you on almost everything. I to would hate to have to kill someone, but, if they come through my door or window or whatever, they are going to leave feet first. If someone needs something I have, all they have to do is ask me and I'll give it to them. It's my family that I won't take any chances with. I also live in GA and do like the fact that other states around us, FL, ALA, TN, N.C and S.C. recognize our CCW.
 
greenflash107:

I didn't think South Carolina recognized Ga. cc permits..

Is that a recent change?

Thanks,

J. Pomeroy
 
PX15, don't know if new or not, but have been told that by several Law (highway troopers) county law. I really need to look up to make sure. I live in N.W. GA and was told that I could carry into any of the surrounding States. But, as I said. I really need to find out to be sure. How old is your info?
 
Hey PX15. jumped onto Google and first couple of links said that GA was not on S.C. list of recognized states for CCW. Did say that there was a special permit that a S.C. could get (or vise, versa). I am glad you said something, because every once in a blue moon I do have to go into S.C. I don't like the idea of having to buy a second permit just for the one state though. Do you know anything about that?
 
Like has been said before in this thread, the big cities like Miami and Fort Lauderdale are probably most liberal however there are still a lot of us "Florida Crackers" that haven't gone anywhere and we all remember the good ole days when most of it down here was "redneck territory" and full of swamps.

+1
my dear old mother was a Florida Cracker (seminole and irish, ancestors fought for Florida in the civil war)
it pains me to see how much its changed and how populated its become:barf: . i could be wrong but it seems that Georgia and South Carolina will undergo similar changes within the next ten to twenty years :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

well since you are pro-gun i will offer you this advice. go to either palm beach county, or any county west or north. miami is actually i think kinda, sorta moderate. the cubans seem to balance the many liberal new yorkers, latin americans, and carribean folk. however if you dont speak spanish you are up a creek, possibly wont get a job and in the 20% minority.
Broward in bout 10 years will be the same way with no one speaking intelligible english.
the down side to Palm beach is that real estate will cost you and arm and a leg, with a 3 bedroom house with no land costing you at least 300,000

the gun laws through out the state are very good. cept the gun shows where im pretty sure you need a CCW to purchase.
i think many down here have really learned to trust Jeb and the Republicans at the state level. i think they will stay in power, which will result in more good gun laws. hopefully open carry is next
 
the gun laws through out the state are very good. cept the gun shows where im pretty sure you need a CCW to purchase.
Gun show purchases are the same as gunstore. CCW alows you to walkout with a handgun , no CCW and you wait three days
 
#1--The site for the proposed gun range is not just 'near a small town' but is, in fact, in the middle of a residential area that includes a church and an elementary school.

The above quote by waterlady501 in post #36 is untrue. Here are aerial photos of the property in question-- the gun range property is outlined in red. These photos are available on the Escambia County Property Appraiser's website:
http://www.escpa.org/

"Middle of a residential area"? Riiiiiight..... Not exactly the middle of suburbia-- if this is a residential area unsuited for a gun range, then so is about 95% of America. This is just more anti-gun propaganda. An elementary school is nearby??!! Heavens! Think of the children!!

demapImage_P141ISLD29286883264.jpg

demapImage_P141ISLD29286883300.jpg
 
Gun show purchases are the same as gunstore. CCW alows you to walkout with a handgun , no CCW and you wait three days

true. you also would have to wait for long guns to. many states let you walkout with your long gun purchaces. not so in FL which is one of my 2 gripes with our gun laws. the other being no open carry.
 
you also would have to wait for long guns to. many states let you walkout with your long gun purchaces. not so in FL .
Not true, there is no state mandated waiting period on long guns.
But counties are allowed to extend the handgun waiting period to five days and can apply it to long guns.
Orange and Seminole counties do neither

You must live in Miami-Dade
 
I didn't think they did that

Question for the board

If you live in Broward can you come up to Fla and buy a long gun in Orlando and walk out with it ?
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top