Flute and thread bull barrel, or just swap?

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I've got a DPMS upper on my AR, came with a 16" bull barrel with no muzzle device, or threaded for a muzzle device.
It's accurate, but HEAVY, and LOUD. Too heavy to comfortably run and gun, too heavy to swing from target to target, and too loud to even consider shooting indoors without hearing protection. It's available to use as an HD rifle, but due to the weight and noise factors, It's tertiary to my 9mm pistol and 12 gauge shotgun.

It's a great target barrel, but as a carbine length, it doesn't compare to a 20" bull barrel designed to shoot from a rest. Plus, I'm not a long distance shooter. I'm a sub 200 yard shooter.

I want less weight. I am leaning toward just buying a new barrel (maybe even another upper, but not as likely), but I've also considered fluting and threading the current barrel if the difference in price is significant.

Now, I'm not looking to spend a ton of money on what realistically is only a casual plinking rifle. I've had this Del-Ton lightweight barrel in my bookmarks for awhile now (things continue to creep up and take priority over buying a new barrel), but I've recently considered the fluting and threading as an option and keeping my current set up. If I do buy the lightweight barrel, I'd end up selling the DPMS bull barrel since I really don't foresee ever using it in a future build.

I'm sure I can find any number of machine shops to mill out some flutes, and thread the muzzle, but should I look at run of the mill machine shops, probably dedicated to tool and die work for the automotive industry, or find a competent gun smith, and would it be even be less expensive to go this route versus buying a new barrel at $172 with shipping?

I'm also going to need a muzzle device, but I can find those all day long on Amazon for dirt cheap. The rest of the parts I need to finish the build I have in stock already.

Can anyone recommend a good machine shop or gun smith who can do this work and keep it under $200? I'd prefer them to be in West Michigan to save S&H costs.
 
Save yourself a lot of effort for little return, and just buy another barrel. After all the machine work you will want to refinish the barrel also, and given the financial limitations on your project you will be way ahead just buying another barrel and selling that one. Even if you manage to find a gunsmith that will do the work for the price you are looking to pay, you might save yourself 5 bucks if you are lucky.
 
Save yourself a lot of effort for little return, and just buy another barrel. After all the machine work you will want to refinish the barrel also, and given the financial limitations on your project you will be way ahead just buying another barrel and selling that one. Even if you manage to find a gunsmith that will do the work for the price you are looking to pay, you might save yourself 5 bucks if you are lucky.
That would be my vote. Additionally while the flute thing sounds good and will look pretty I think if you do the math you really won't reduce the barrel weight by all that much.

Ron
 
1. One 16 inch barrel is going to be as loud as another.

2. SOTA Arms sells a nice complete upper with a 16 inch barrel and flash hider for, last I looked, a bit over $300 so I wouldn't bother with fluting the barrel, etc.

3. I'm not sure what you mean by a "muzzle device." A muzzle brake or flash hider will decrease recoil if that's what you're looking for but won't decrease the noise. To decrease the noise, you'll need a suppressor. If you get an upper with a flash hider, if the thread pitch is appropriate, you could probably just unscrew the flash hider and screw on a supressor.
 
Just buy a barrel that you like and sell the one you don't.
...too loud to even consider shooting indoors without hearing protection.
Yeah... Every time I read a statement like that it makes me think about buying stock in a hearing aid company. ANY full power .223/5.56 is going to be too loud to shoot ANYWHERE without hearing protection or a really good can. Even with the can it'd be a good idea to use hearing protection if you're shooting indoors.
 
I have seen places advertise fluting for like $80 so it might just be worth looking into. I have a RRA Varmit that I have wanted to have fluted because of weight.
Do you really need a threaded muzzle?
 
Just buy a new barrel. The only muzzle device thats going to help with noise is a NFA silencer. All supersonic rounds are too loud to fire without earpro.
 
I have a DPMS heavy barreled .308 that I built. It weighed in at 9.75 lb with BUIS. Shoots great, but heavy. I went with fluting and threading. It took 10 oz. off the weight. That's fine with me. I sent it to Craddock Precision. They did a nice job. It seems to shoot just as well as before and 10 oz lighter. I mounted an A2 flash hider on mine.

http://www.craddockprecision.com/index.html
 
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