fn scar differences?

[whitearrow]

Good afternoon fellas. I am contemplating the purchase of a fn scar 16s as my shtf rifle. I like the black one better than the flat dark earth but was just wondering what are the differences between the 2? Is it just color or something else? The reason I ask is when I went to my local gun shop to price check I saw in the book where the earth colored one had a 16.25" barrel and the black had just a 16". Also, the earth colored one had a 5.56 chamber and the black had a .223 rem chambering. I know these aren't huge differences but I just want to be well informed before I plop down that amount of cash.
Much thanks,
Whitearrow

 

[ny32182]

I'd be very shocked if the barrels are different based on color. The difference is likely in the literature you were looking at.

Just pick your favorite color. You've got more options than a Model T!

 

[303Jeff]

Yeah I can pretty much guarantee that on one of the rifles somebody entered it in based on info from the manufacturer and the other one somebody else entered it in by hand from street knowledge. I wouldn't worry about it, it would likely be pretty costly for FN to do that kind of thing from a manufacturing stand point.

And based on the color? Nah they would never do that. Like ny32182 said, pick your favorite one. I like the FDE or Foliage Green color scheme myself. Black has been done so much it's getting boring. I like what Flintknapper did with his .458 SOCOM too, notice the handguards:

 

[ZCORR Jay]

Cool picture 303jeff. I would also agree that the black has been over done and that too costly for FN to do something like that.

 

[omegaflame]

What is that stock?

 

[Big Boy]

Barrel length will be the same.

The 16s is 5.56mm/.223
The 17s is 7.62x51mm/.308

Pick you're favorite color.

 

[gym]

Where I live we use cars to kill those creatures. Florida is getting overun with them, not a day goes by that I don't see 1 -3 nailed in the road. I guess with all the cutting back no one picks them up any more, because they are usually there for a week. The trailer park down the road must be eating them. We have many trailer parks, and some are quite nice, but there is one that is out of a horror movie. Not one trailer has all the windows in it. I feel bad for the folks, but it's tough times. Vero is like that, you can have a mansion on one side and a trailer a few hundred feet away.

 

[303Jeff]

Just to make sure you know, that picture isn't mine, it came from Flintknapper's thread here: http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=449721&page=22

It's his custom .458 SOCOM "Hog Hammer."

 

[12131]

What is that stock?

Magpul PRS (Precision Rifle/Sniper)

 

[Tirod]

Black is an interesting phenomenon. Stoner started out with OD. Somewhere along the path the government went black, or bought Colt's reasoning. It was probably based on dollars.

Black is actually not a great subdued color and when moving, attracts the human eye. Most pro's and special units camo their weapons to get rid of the black, and the Army has allowed it all along. Just recently they even issued a memo on how it should be done overseas.

In all the field training I was in, the first two things you could see when soldiers were moving was the round kevlar helmet when it wasn't brush covered, or the black rifle at a high port arms.

Nonetheless, lots of shooters like them black, and even call it "evil black rifle disease." That goes right along with research showing black as an intimidating color, which attracts and holds attention. It causes people to focus on it, and garners more aggressive behavior.

Great for a SWAT team, not so good for shooters, unless a lot of attention is what they want. Seems to be the case. There's lot of posts about "look at my evil black rifle." Apparently they feel empowered.

To me, black is just the guy version of a hot pink hello kitty gun.

 

[jimmy0622]

Color is the only difference -- both are chambered in 5.56 NATO w/ 1 in 7 twist rate and barrel length with compensator is 16.25"

 

[303Jeff]

Look at my evil FDE rifle... Look at my evil green rifle... Yeah those don't work but I'm sure somebody could come up with an evil replacement.

 

[Flintknapper]

omegaflame wrote:

What is that stock?

Answer: Magpul PRS (Precision Rifle/Sniper) in O.D. green.




Flint.

 

[empeter]

The reason I ask is when I went to my local gun shop to price check I saw in the book where the earth colored one had a 16.25" barrel and the black had just a 16".

Just one more example of the man keepin' us down.

 

[Atrox-Venator]

I've personally owned both a black and a FDE FNH SCAR 16S. I first went with the black one but then felt it looked rather dull, so I traded it for the FDE one and I couldn't be happier. I can attest to what others have said; both are chambered in 5.56x45mm, their barrels measure 16.25” not including the muzzle brake and the rate of twist is 1:7...color is the only difference. Most SCAR owners seem to prefer FDE; as it is the color originally intended for it, but if your gut feeling tells you to go with the black one, by all means do so. Also, it will accept any AR15 muzzle device, as the thread pitch is the standard 1/2x28. I swapped the equipped PWS muzzle brake for a Smith Vortex flash hider on mine. They're impressive carbines, albeit somewhat expensive, but most certainly a refreshing alternative in a market filled with AR15's.

 

[Tirod]

Atrox nailed it.

As for the man keeping us down, you got to wonder why not "evil white rifle disease?" There are a lot of cultural issues involved, not to go there further.

Just asking that the choice of color between black vs. any other for military/hunting use should be a no brainer. Almost no one wears black for concealment, because it won't.

 

[benEzra]

Nonetheless, lots of shooters like them black, and even call it "evil black rifle disease." That goes right along with research showing black as an intimidating color, which attracts and holds attention. It causes people to focus on it, and garners more aggressive behavior.

Great for a SWAT team, not so good for shooters, unless a lot of attention is what they want. Seems to be the case. There's lot of posts about "look at my evil black rifle." Apparently they feel empowered.

To me, black is just the guy version of a hot pink hello kitty gun.
...
As for the man keeping us down, you got to wonder why not "evil white rifle disease?" There are a lot of cultural issues involved, not to go there further.

Trying to find psychological reasons why hardcoat anodized aluminum and inexpensive UV-stabilized reinforced nylon are black is like trying to find psychological reasons why car, truck, and tractor tires are black, why carbon fiber is black, and why stainless steel is silvery when polished and light gray when unpolished. It's the natural color of the materials, and making them any other color costs extra. (Yes, you can make car tires out of yellow rubber, royal blue rubber, or OD green rubber, but the UV stabilizers are much more expensive than carbon black, and few are willing to pay for the cost difference.)

A Type III sulfuric acid hardcoat anodized aluminum receiver is black, period; the porous surface traps lubricants and protectants very well, but it also traps light. To make it OD green, olive drab, pink, whatever, you have to fill those pores with some sort of paint or dye, which requires more raw materials, labor, energy, and QA.

Likewise, a typical factory-parkerized steel surface is dark gray when dry and black when oiled, and for the same reasons---a parkerized surface is porous, soaks up oil, and AFAIK is fairly hydrophobic, but it also absorbs light unless painted.

If you like colored finishes, great! No problem with that; I think colorized guns are neat looking. But don't imagine that everyone who sticks to basic black---whether the topic be guns or car tires---is doing so in order to look like a ninja, or because of subconscious cultural/racial hangups.