I've been researching safes again because I've outgrown mine. Mostly based on things read here and elsewhere by safe technicians I decided to put my mechanical dial lock back on my safe (had put an electronic on it). While surfing the Internet I came across this guy. Check out the video on this guy's home page. With no tools at all--nothing-- he opens an Amsec with a dial lock in a little over a minute. It's long, but at about 7 minutes, it gets interesting. He opens a bank vault with (I would think) a manipulation resistant lock in under 6 minutes! http://www.jeffsitarsafecracker.net/Jeff_Sitar_Website.html I certainly am not worried about this guy coming to my home, and he is beyond rare . . . the fact that he has won a SAVTA safe cracking competition seven times puts him in the Chuck Norris skill category in his field. But it is fascinating to watch. I am still glad I put my dial lock back on my safe, though. It's an RSC, I don't have more than about $10,000 worth of guns to lock up and no other valuables like jewels or anything, just important papers. But I do think when I finally get my Amsec BF7240, at some point I will replace the S&G 6730 that comes on it with an S&G 6630. And I'm going to call ADT and have them put a sensor for my alarm system in the room with my safe. Glad this guy is a bonded safe tech and not a burglar! Enjoy the video. Later edit: Question for a1abdj I just thought of. This raises an interesting question in my mind. Again, it doesn't matter to me, I don't have a lot of $ value to protect, and my home is not a target for high-end jewel thiefs. But after watching this guy, I realize that if safe techs can do this, at least some criminals can also do this. Not every skilled safe cracker is going to be a bonded safe tech, it's human nature. So it occurs to me there is a tradeoff between risk of failure and security between say, the S&G 6630 and the S&G 6120 electronic. In my case, with a Liberty RSC the weak link in my safe are the walls, not the dial lock, and I'm not so security minded. But for a jewelry store, which would be a natural target for a talented thief, does the dial lock not now become the weak link in their system? Would they be better off with the electronic? Calling you to open a failed lock once every ten years would simply be a cost of doing business to them. I always think like an economists, and there is a tradeoff between security/reliability, but does the electronic not offer a meaningful jump in security? Again, for a legitimate target who has to worry about it. I'm more concerned about having to call you for a lockout, frankly, and not the least bit worried about a safe cracker in my house. Just curious. After seeing this, I'd think most true vaults/safes would have long ago switched to electronic.