Foreigners understand the 2A better than we do.

[CNYCacher]

A co-worker of mine is from China. She was born and raised there and moved to the US for college and never left. She is married now with kids to a US citizen.

I have invited her husband (through her since I don't knew him) to go shooting with me a few times, ever since she mentioned to me that her husband wants to get a shotgun for HD, which she wasn't supportive of. I do not know if she has ever extended my invitation to him or not. She seems apprehensive about shooting so I made sure to invite her to come with him if he ever takes me up on the offer.

Due to the apprehension, I have from time to time handed her various gun paraphernalia like an unfired shotgun slug which i cut froma shell just to see what it looked like, spent cartridge casings, etc. hoping to get her interested. Today I showed her a spent 7.54x54R casing and was surprised when she first tried to look through it like a small telescope, then took a second look at it and said "Oh, this is a boolit."

I acquiesced to allow her to refer to an entire cartridge as a bullet, and said "Well, it's just a part of one."

"Oh, it's empty. . . Oh, this is a shell, right? Like a shotgun, you shoot, boom! and then . . . " she makes a flipping motion with her hands that wasn't anything gun related, accompanied by an adequate pump action shucking sound ". . . and this come out empty, right."

"Yeah, pretty much, except the type of gun that goes with this bullet is a called a rifle, not a shotgun, and this is called a casing not a shell, but you have the basic idea."

"Yeah, I thought that's what it was. See, I know things."

Then I asked her: "Citizens can't have guns in China, is that right?"

"Yes, you can't have them. Well, you can, but it's illegal."

"That's what I mean, you aren't allowed to have them legally."

"Yes."

Now at this point I was really intrigued to pick her brain on the subject, so I asked:
"Why do you think that is?"

My friends I could not have been prepared for the answer:

"Well, I think it's because the government doesn't want people to have them. They don't want people to fight back, make a revolution, because we know that they are really evil."



Wow.

Just, wow.

I then explained to her about the the second amendment. How the people that set up our current government had the foresight to know how to protect the future from tyranny and oppression. She was the first person I had explained it to who understood off the bat exactly what I meant. She soaked it in and agreed with all of it. I noted that it was funny how here in America, almost no one understands the point of the second amendment. She said that in China, everyone would understand the point, they just don't have a 2A.



I wonder, when and IF people ever -get- it, will that be because it is too late?

 

[Il Duca]

People around here will only get it when they wake up one day working in a factory surrounded by guards with M16s. People in general don't know how bad and tyrranical a government can be when the people they rule can't do anything about it. We live in a carefree bubble of a world where nothing bad happens to us, because the government takes care of us, and the Police protect us. And the politicians in charge of us are absolutely trustworthy and would never bend us over.

 

[michiganfan]

For me that it the ultimate argument for citzens having guns. Even my anti gun friends are hard pressed to refute that need.

 

[quatin]

Ok, I haven't been to China for a long time, but I think your "co-worker" is misinformed. It's common among people who don't use firearms to not know about firearm laws. Most friends I have who has never touched a gun thinks it's illegal to buy an AK or an AR in the US.

It's not illegal to own a firearm in China. HOWEVER, the rules regarding firearms pretty much restricts you to use them for hunting only. My dad talks of hunting when he grew up with a shotgun and last time I went back to China my uncles still hunt with shotguns. This has been quite a while and the rules may have changed, but a quick net search only pops up propoganda sites with no references.

 

[Juna]

So true....

A guy I know was telling an acquaintance of his about how I have a Kalashnikov variant (WASR 10), and the guy replied, "That's an assault rifle! It's illegal to have those!". :banghead:

A lot of recent immigrants haven't yet been tainted by complacency & the little bubble of nanny government that we live in. They just recently came here from places WITHOUT Constitutions and inalienable rights, so they really appreciate the rights that we do have. Most people in the U.S. today (except for older veterans & soldiers) have never known true hardship, so they take everything we have for granted and forget how we got it. They think it could never be taken away from us, yet they'll allow their politicians to whittle away at their Constitutional rights. It's so frustrating!! :banghead:

 

[Gord]

If your co-worker "gets it" then she wouldn't be averse to her husband getting a gun to defend his life and hers.

I would imagine that most people coming from foreign countries know only what they have been led to believe is true. I've heard that visiting Chinese seem to be pretty uneasy about the idea of firearms in private hands as a widespread and common occurence, simply because back home they'd be getting a visit from some dude with a stiff uniform, big hat and lots of gold braid for having a handgun.

 

[Axman]

For those that don't get any part of the Bill of Rights, including the Second Amendment, see my signature line.

 

[Kali Endgame]

1A allows you to voice your opinion and displeasure. 2A allows you to continue 1A and to make your voice heard by force, if necessary.

 

[brolin_1911a1]

One of the most ardent supporters of the 2nd Amendment I know is a German immigrant. "Jurgen" married a U.S. citizen and purchased his FIL's pawn shop. Upon getting his naturalization papers, he got an FFL and is an enthusiastic and very dedicated shooter. He's seen socialism up close and personal and seen what it's like to live under a government that distrusts armed citizens. He's probably the most eloquent defender of univeral citizen armament that I know.

 

[geekWithA.45]

A lot of our foriegn friends get it.

A lot don't.

The old guy who "made of hobby of planting bombs" under soviet tanks in Hungary understood.

His grandson....not so much.

 

[MikeH]

I wouldn't be surprised. After all, it was a Chinese who said "political power comes from the barrel of a gun."

 

[meinbruder]

I met a lady from Russia last year; she fled the “motherland” for all the usual reasons. After she became settled in her new life she set about doing a few things to become as American as possible. Learn to speak English, become a citizen, buy a gun, learn to shoot, and find a husband; she did them in that order. She’s a smart woman and understood the 2nd Amendment before arrival in the US.
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