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The kiss of Death.
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I would have to agree. At the last debate the candidates were all trying to distance themselves from Bush. The Republican party is losing the base.
Face it, the country is full of unhappy people and they're blaming the government. Bunch of whiners.
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More like the country is unhappy WITH the Government.
It is time for a change, not just a new face.
 
What I find crazy is that the approval rating of congress is in the mid 20s and they were JUST ELECTED! All you people that scream about compromise and voting for the lessor of two evils (pun intended) need to pay attention to that.
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I did.

I paid attention before the last election, unlike some people here.

I voted for the best options I figured I had. That doesn't mean I didn't wish for better next time, but I don't care to cut off my nose to spite my face.

What I didn't buy into was the idiotic notion of voting for a Democrat because Bush (DeLay, Cunningham, whomever) is a Republican. 10,000 Bushes wouldn't mean that I want Hillary Clinton as President. That's just a fact.

(And if you're a dyed-in-the-wool Clinton fan, nothing could get you to vote against her.)

If I agreed with any of the fundamental platforms of the Democratic Party, I'd already be voting for them. If I don't, then it's damned stupid to vote for them and expect things to get better as a result.

News flash: there's corruption on both sides. Politicians are people. They suffer from the same faults as anyone else, and they're in a position to abuse their power a lot more than most. Voting out of spite doesn't end the corruption, or any other problem with our government.
 
Anyone want to bet $100 that Ron Paul will win the GOP Primary?

What about if it's sweetened a bit:

He will either...

Win the GOP Primary.
OR...
Get 10% of the popular vote in the final election, in any way, including write-in, third party, or independent.

Anyone REALLY think they'll win that bet?
 
I don't know of a single gunowner in all of Texas who would vote for Clinton. Not saying there isn't one, I just don't know of any.

But so far as Democrats being so much worse on guns is having Sen. James Webb really worse than having Sen. George Allen?
 
What does Ron Paul's campaign have to do with Fred Thompson?

As a Thompson supporter, is the best argument you can make for him that he is more popular than Ron Paul? Thats not much of a campaign platform.

How can a conservative, supposedly pro-Constitution candidate explain voting for Campaign Finance Reform, Medicare Reform, and Patriot?
 
There have been a lot of DUmmies from Democrat Underground coming on the gun boards, trying to cause unrest among conservative voters.

They have an idea that RP can be the Republican version of their Nadar. Split the vote and sneak Osama into the White House.:mad:

It won't work.
 
I didn't say all, just some, on all boards. I believe this strategy was started a few years ago in preparation of the 08 election. Not trolls.

Look at some of the post totals of DU. They post 40/50 posts a day. They have 20,000/30,000 posts each. It would be nothing to them to get 1000 posts an on another board.

I'm not paranoid.:rolleyes:
 
Hehe there's always the invisible enemies when things doesn't look good: MSM, democratic underground, and council of foreign relations.
 
PILMAN...

You have yet to provide any kind of evidence that Paul is an anti-semite. He doesn't care for the power that AIPAC wields? Neither do I.
I also believe that Israel should stand or fall on its own - America doesn't need the financial burden that Israel demands nor the baggage that comes along with our unconditional support of Israeli foreign policy.

Am I an anti-semite?

Biker
 
is having Sen. James Webb really worse than having Sen. George Allen
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Yes, unfortunately, it is. FAR worse.

A majority of Democrats in either house means that anti-gun bills might actually see a debate and a vote, and that pro-gun bills won't ever see the light of day.

Since the Democrats are in the majority, the Senate Majority Leader is Harry Reid. The Majority Whip is Dick Durbin.

In the House, the Speaker is Nancy Pelosi and the Majority Leader is Steny Hoyer.

Every single one of them is NRA F-rated.

The people calling the shots on the Senate and House floors are all rabidly anti-gun, and the reason they're calling the shots is because the Democrats hold a slim majority after the 2006 elections.

Reid and Durbin control the Senate floor because Webb got elected. It's not Webb's fault. It's just the way the world works.

(BTW blame Allen for that. If there's anyone who can be blamed, Allen is right up there.)
 
He voted for proposing an amendment to ban flag desecration. ***. That's what makes this country different from all the others.

How do you figure that? That video was a performance in backing down from Moore's challenge.
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Er.. no it wasn't, he just attacked Moore and left it there. That's not called backing down. That is called a performance though.
 
What does Ron Paul's campaign have to do with Fred Thompson?
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You tell me.

Mention Fred Thompson here, and you have a chorus line of Ron Paul cheerleaders showing up.
 
Has form completely replaced content in our culture?
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It has in your posts. Your posing like you give a tinker's damn about who the Republican candidate will be hasn't been very substantial.
 
Michael Moore is not someone who can be "reasoned" with. He's a performer, and a publicity stunt expert.

Thompson's response, though it may not have been the right one in another context, was perfect, given what and who Michael Moore is. Appropriate responses are an art. Libertarians generally lack that art. We would do well to learn it.

And Malone, I'm sure you are aware that form has always mattered in every culture. Your question, itself, is all form and no substance.:rolleyes:
 
In a perfect world I like a lot of what RP has to say.....unfortunately we don't live in a perfect world so RP has LESS than a Snowballs Chance in HELL of going ANYWHERE in this Primary let alone General Election.

Dr NO's campaign is going NOwhere.
 
I personally DON'T agree with Paul's foreign policy. That is what would require a perfect world: the perfect world of the left-wing pacifist, where the US is at fault for everything bad that happens, and where we can end threats to ourselves simply by withdrawing from the world.

His domestic policy is fine with me.

Simply, I'll take the Rand, but not the Chomsky.

And no, that doesn't mean I think Thompson is perfect.

Frankly, Guiliani on health care is right where a Libertarian ought to be, believe it or not. He's the only one with the balls to say it outright, too. He's right there with Arnold Kling (!).

Tough choices, really.

The thing is, many policies ebb and flow. Gun laws seem to stick around forever. I lean towards voting to keep my guns safe and legal.
 
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How do Fred supporters explain Campaign Finance Reform, Medicare Reform, and the Patriot Act? Or do you even try to explain it? Maybe its easier to sweep those issues under the rug, and hope nobody notices?

In what other ways would you like to see free speech limited?
What other welfare programs would you and Fred like to creat?
What other ways would you like the federal government o become involved in our private lives?
 
Thats very funny, but its also about the best answer I have heard from anyone who is supporting Fred at this time. I agree with you that Ron Paul has very little chance of winning, and even if he did, I doubt the US could handle a Paul presidency.

I just wish someone would explain why Fred is supposed to be this great conservative if he has voted for increasing welfare programs, increasing size of government bureacracy, and limiting consitutional rights. These are three things that liberals typically do, not conservatives.

My question is not about Ron Paul, its about Fred Thompson, and I would really love for someone to try and answer. If the best reason you can think of to vote for FT is that you think he will get more than 3 percent of the vote, then I am going to keep looking for other candidates. I am not really much of a Ron Paul fan either, and would love to see a true conservative come into the race. I was hopeful at first that Thompson would be that man, but when I look at his voting record in the Senate, it does not appear he will be.
 
Maybe its easier to sweep those issues under the rug, and hope nobody notices?
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Nope, Lone_Gunman.

However, if you haven't noticed, this is 2007.

I'd rather play defense than not play at all. Let's see what real choice we have, ultimately.

In what other ways would you like to see free speech limited?
What other welfare programs would you and Fred like to creat?
What other ways would you like the federal government o become involved in our private lives?
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1. One of the Democrats' first amendments to a bill when they got in last year was one that would require BLOGGERS TO REGISTER WITH THE GOVERNMENT. Then they dusted off the "Fairness Doctrine" to shut up anti-liberal commentary. You may not get it, but the Democrats' plans for free speech are pretty bad. If we can block them all, we're far better off than if we can't.

2. None, of course. See #1.

3. None. And I'm just not as scared of the PATRIOT Act boogeyman as some are. That doesn't mean I like it. It means I see things in shades of gray. If you see everything as black or white, you will not be able to get anything done in politics, because everything will look so evil to you, it is paralyzing.

Wake up. We are playing DEFENSE right now. Whatever the GOP has become, the Democrats have NOT become more libertarian than they were 5, 10, or 20 years ago. Keeping them in check is very, very important. A President Clinton or Obama will be a blank check for everything we don't want. Any Republican who can win can serve as a brake -- not a savior, a brake.

Again, if you don't see the shades of gray, you end up rushing headlong into the blackness. Really.

It's a bummer, but it's so.
 
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