Friend detained at Canadian border

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A similar thing happened to my wife (then girlfriend) and I at the Canadian border. She admitted to having mace. They made us pull over and I really had to use the restroom. There was a sign indicating a restroom right there, so I got out to go, but they motioned me inside and searched everything in my pockets and the linings of my clothes and my girlfriend's clothes. They searched our vehicle and all our luggage. Didn't go as far as to use fiber optics or remove door panels, but it was a very thorough search. Finally, they let me go to the bathroom and let us go after signing some paper saying that she "relinquishes her mace to the crown" or something. We haven't been back since.
 
I'm not sure whether you've noticed or not but the US with the Patriot Act, illegal Wire Taps, even monitoring of the general publics library records. And you're suggesting that Canada is becoming a Nazi State? Oh, but it's for terrorism......suuuure.
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I agree 100% America is turning into a police state under the Republicans. I might move to Canada if the current trend keeps up in this country.

Also I should have mentioned that when we traveled back into the States, we where treated the a smiliar treatment. My friend though didn't have to pay a fee to re enter the country. It's just that college kids always look like there up to something no good.
 
"...the whole declaration rigamarole..." Yep and if you don't and they find a firearm, you won't be allowed in. You will be arrested and handed over to your Homeland Security guys. They'll want to know why you're trying to export a firearm without a permit.
Oh, and our Customs types want to carry side arms. That is truly scary.
 
Banta, there was quite a long thread on this in the benchrest site a few weeks ago. The incident in question occurred several months ago, and the gun show the individual attended was in Puyallup, WA.
 
Then they came out with the bomb shell that one of my mates had been arrested for lifting cigeretttes when he was 18 in NYS. Because of the the minor blemish on his record they would not allow him into the country without signing a statement waving his rights, and that he understood he would be in deep trouble if he was arrested for any in fraction in Canada, and he had to pay a $150 USD fee for his temporary travel permit. Everytime he traveled to Canada he would have to declare himself to Customs and co through the process.
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And then contrast that with the way people come and go through our southern border...
 
"Banta, there was quite a long thread on this in the benchrest site a few weeks ago. The incident in question occurred several months ago, and the gun show the individual attended was in Puyallup, WA."


Yeah, I guess my point was it is not isolated just to the incident that you pointed out. It seems to be quite common from what I have read.
 
"Yeah, I guess my point was it is not isolated just to the incident that you pointed out. It seems to be quite common from what I have read."


If that's the case, it's been a pretty well-kept secret on this side of the border. I believe the individual involved in the case I was referring to uses the screenname "Lazarus" or "Lazarus2000."
 
I live right on the river between Ont and NY. the only thing that separates us is 3/4 of a mile of water on the St. Lawrence. I find that people that live along the border have a bit different view of their neibours.. and it is a positive one, on both sides....... Living on the river we go back and forth 2 to 3 times a week during the summer months.. and have friends from the U.S that visit about the same...

Plain and simple when you cross the border to either country tell the truth... it saves alot of hassel... I have never had a problem and hope i never do..
 
I have to drive back and forth over the border to get to and from Alaska for summer work. I send all my firearms with a friend who flies up. I got through easy last time, on both sides, and was impressed with how polite everyone was. But it still gets me why they don't allow handguns through.
I work as a fishing guide in AK, so I carry a .44 mag. I don't want to go through the hassle of declaring it, so it has to fly to AK. I can't even tell the border patrol what I do in AK (I have several jobs, so I still am not lying), for fear that if they know I'm a fishing guide, they'll tear my car apart for hours trying to find that .44.
Its not there, it never will be, but I just wish they'd make it less of a hassle for someone with a clean record to transport guns like this for legitimate reasons. (I do not consider paying heavy fees reasonable)
Or maybe the US should just take possesion of BC and Yukon so we can drive the AlCan in peace...;)
 
I live just 30 miles from the border but I ABSOLUTELY refuse to go across the border of "CANUCKISTAN"!
 
I work in R.I. and live(own a house) in Mich. I drive home to see my daughter
every other weekend and the shortest way is across Canada.
I've been doing this for 4 months now.

Most of the time I don't have a prolem,BUT,3 weeks ago I was going into Canada at buffalo and was sent to customs.
3 hours of searching my truck(toyota std.cab, shortbed)threatening to take me to jail when they found the guns they knew I had.
Also saying they where going to search all the files on my new laptop because they thought I had illeagle porn on it.
They told me I was free to go after making a mess of my truck and not finding what they wanted ...
3:00 am is not my favrite time for thier fun and games...
Told them to have a nice day(NOT)
At the other side comming back(into Canada)I asked what the deal was,
The border guard asked what line I went to(bi-lingual)he then told me not to go into that line as most of the French/Can people didn't like Americans
and would give them a hard time.
I took his advice and have had no problems since.
Ken
 
I can't think of any reason why anyone would want to go to a place like Canada.
 
I don't want to go there,But most times it saves me 4 hours +- drive time.
That means I get to spend more time with my little girl...
Fill the tank before I cross the boarder and drive across without stopping.
Ken
 
You could be searched for illegal guns when you enter into Canada (especially in Ontario or Quebec) because their is a HUGE handgun smuggling problem into those provinces. Something like 90% of all the handguns used in crimes in Canada are traced back to the US.
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That 90% figure is a fascinating statistic, Banta. Do you have a source, or perhaps a link to document it?
 
The gun statistic may be true, but I'm certain that it's extremely easy to smuggle whatever you want across the border. There are unmanned checkpoints, hundreds/thousands of miles of border with no controls, etc...

Checkpoints will only catch the idiots. All somebody has to do to avoid being caught is not cross at a checkpoint. Sure, it may mean a hike of a few miles. Big whoop.
 
"That 90% figure is a fascinating statistic, Banta. Do you have a source, or perhaps a link to document it?"


Here's a link. It's from just before the election when the Liberal government at the time was grandstanding for votes by threatening to ban handguns. Obviously it backfired because they lost the election. This is the reason why some Americans go through a few hassles when they cross the border into Canada. Once again be honest, don't try to sneak any guns in and you will not have any problems.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2005/12/08/bc_guns-police20051208.html
 
"The gun statistic may be true, but I'm certain that it's extremely easy to smuggle whatever you want across the border. There are unmanned checkpoints, hundreds/thousands of miles of border with no controls, etc...

Checkpoints will only catch the idiots. All somebody has to do to avoid being caught is not cross at a checkpoint. Sure, it may mean a hike of a few miles. Big whoop."


It would be next to impossible to stop the flow of illegal guns into Canada. Just load up a backpack and walk across a field or through the woods. The same goes for terrorists. The US keeps talking about securing the borders etc. while at the same time 10 million illegals have walked across their southern border. Building a fence, remote sensing etc. would never work. By the time you got officers to the remote areas the person would be long gone. When our Liberal government started beaking off about banning handguns it was all for show and for votes.
 
Once again be honest, don't try to sneak any guns in and you will not have any problems.
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I think the whole point of this thread is that a number of our members have been honest, and have not tried to smuggle in guns, but have had big problems.
 
A Canadian official says 90 percent of the crime guns in Canada come from the US...
Last time, the figure was 50 percent.
The official eventually admitted the figure was pulled from thin air.

Not trying to hi-jack the thread, but blaming Canadian crime on the US just doesn't pass the smell test.
 
Only thing Canada has that the US doesn't is annoying French Canadians ... I see no reason to go there and support their economy with my US dollars.


That said, if for some reason I have to go up there I guess I'll get some rainbow flag stickers to ease my way through customs. :p
 
Can't we just invade and take possesion of Yukon and BC to get a nice smooth drive to Alaska with no pain in the a*s border crossings into Naziesque Gun Control countries?

Just a thought.
 
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