Friend wants first gun! Glock vs SIG

[searcher451]

Seems logical to me that the friend should test-fire both pistols and select the one that best fits his hand and eye. To decide any other way, including an online poll on a gun forum -- even a well-meaning one like this -- would be foolish at best.

That having been said, the SIG is a fine pistol.

 

[Sapper771]

NG VI,

The OP stated that his friend was looking for his first handgun. That doesn't necessarily mean that he has never shot a handgun before. That's why I started my post with several questions so I could get a little more background on his friend.

I spent my early years using and shooting everyone elses pistols/rifles/shotguns. Even in the beginning, I preferred certain guns over others due to their features. The Glock grip angle does not bother me that much, but it is a top complaint from shooters.

Sorry, I meant to throw decock in there rather than just C&L, LOL.

 

[NG VI]

Word. Gotta agree with you then.

Especially about the Sig DA pull versus the Glock full length pull, definitely shorter for the Glock. I like it though, it's not too heavy, not too light. 5.5# connector for the win.

I believe the second handgun I ever shot was the first one I bought, the first I shot not long before it, and I've always owned a variety of different pistols from early on, so I never really noticed any angle differences. Grip differences absolutely, and trigger differences, and sight differences, but never really angle differences.

 

[DannyZRC]

for HD and Range use, without consideration toward CCW or Holster use.

Glock all the way, but IMO the 19 is a better option because the so called 'glock grip angle' isn't exaggerated by the hump to the same degree it is on the 17, so it'll make back/forth to other pistol brands a smaller transition.

I have only, in the last 2 months or so, shot my first handgun (I now have ~350rds, mostly 9mm, over that period). the glock trigger is easily the 2nd best trigger to an SAO trigger, it encourages speed and accuracy (for me at least) more than any other trigger, including sig on SA.

I don't have a lot of trigger time, but in a way I think that gives me a better idea of what works "out of the box" for a "new shooter" because I don't have any preconceptions or legacy habits that I'm bringing to the evaluation.

I wouldn't pick the sig or the glock for CCW/Holster use, but that's a different and mostly philosophical argument. for target shooting and nightstand safe duty, the glock is epic.

(I just actually purchased my pistol, finally, on sunday. HK P2000 in 9mm/LEM)

 

[bg226]

Thanks for the advice and votes guys! He is going with the SIG Sauer. The deal breaker was the long and "spongy" trigger on the Glock. The SIG trigger was "crisp" and much more affirmative.

 

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

I always recommend Glock for 1st one so that you have nowhere to go but up in quality, ergos, and aesthetics - and so it makes for fun and something to do when you're ready to step up to something (much) better. Sigs are OK, because you can still step up to a CZ or 1911, but not as much "room to grow" as when you start at the bottom. Only thing I'd recommend over a Glock for a beginner is a Hi-point; then you can start yourself a-upgrading right off the bat!

He is going with the SIG Sauer

Seriously, he made the right choice - there is no comparison in quality.

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

I am not going to vote in the poll because the choice is too personal. Both are excellent guns.

 

[NinjaFeint]

I bought a Glock 17 as my first gun for the same two applications. I have grown quite fond of it. I also think it is a good first gun because it has a consistent battery of arms.

It's also my easiest gun to maintain by a long shot. The maintenance part is important in a first gun, it needs to be easy enough the person will actually do it.

 

[NG VI]

For the same money as the Sig 226, I would have personally gone with the Glock 17 or 19, and one of those wonderful J&G S&W K frame .38 Specials to go with it.

 

[230therapy]

The Glock won't beat the P226 X-Five!

 

[sho'nuff]

Both are fine choices. I prefer sig but glock is solid choice too

 

[oneounceload]

Admitting to only reading the first page, the question is: Which does he shoot the best and like, regardless of YOUR opinion?

It is going to be HIS gun, not yours after all....................

 

[NG VI]

The Glock won't beat the P226 X-Five!

Four or five of them beat an X-Five to me and my collection though.

Or even better, a subcompact, compact, and competition model, plus a pre-lock 686 beats the hell out of a single X-Five for my uses though.

I don't think I could appreciate an X-Five enough.

 

[ttheel]

The closeness of this poll speaks to the quality and dependability of both firearms

 

[md7]

ttheel,

you pretty much nailed it! for me it's the glock, but that is only because i shoot them better, not that i think one is better than the other. both are great. go with what fits.

 

[Jed Carter]

I own 5 SIGs, and only one Glock the G34. The only thing that would put the Glock over the SIG P226 would be the cost of magazines. SIG sights are way better, get the night sights too, factory Glock sights are plastic. I love my G34, I use it as my IDPA / USPSA pistol, but I am replacing it with an STI 1911. SIG DA/SA trigger better than the Glock when in SA, Glocks trigger is a consistant long pull. Both are good, but the SIG P226 is the best pistol ever made IMO.

 

[MikePaiN]

I'm a Glock convert since buying my new G23
Without a doubt he should get the G17.....and buy a whole **** load of ammo with the money he'll save over the Sig

 

[atakawow]

Many misconceptions in this tread.

1) Sig mags and Glock mags cost NEARLY THE SAME. Mecgar P226 18rd $19-25. GLock mag, $20-25? Explain to me, where is the price difference? Better deals are out there, look harder.

2) If your sub compact Glock out shoots your X-Five, it is your damn failure. Like saying a mini van is faster than a Nascar race car, well only if the Nascar is driven by a monkey. :banghead:

3) All this talk on ergonomics and grip angles are all personal preference. Everybody has different hand sizes and shapes. Like saying a size 34 pants is better than a size 32 pants. Makes no sense. :banghead:

4) NO, and NO, AND NO, you cannot ALMOST buy 2 Glocks for the price of 1 Sig. Math is not hard. Again, better deals are out there, look harder.

5) OP's friend wants a platform for HOME DEFENSE. Yea, like I'm going to worry about the weight of my pistol when there's an intruder coming at me.

6) DA/SA is 'inconsistent,' really? Have you guys own a DA/SA? How many times do you actually have to fire the gun in DA? Yea, sorry, I'd take the Sig SA trigger over the Glock's 'consistent' trigger any day.

7) Glock take down is much easier than Sig. Now are you just being lazy? Because I cannot think of what good I can do with that ONE extra second other than lighting a fart.

8) 'Gun 1 is more accurate than gun 2.' Wrong. The only thing that makes a gun inaccurate, in this case Sig vs Glock, is the user. Again, this is for the purpose of home defense, so a .00001 inch difference at 7 yard is really going to make or break the bad guy?

9) Just because it costs more does not make it better. Just because it costs less does not make it better.

10) Just because a LE agency is using X gun does not make X gun more accurate or reliable than Y gun. More importantly, Just because a LE agency is using X gun does not mean a civillian will magically become efficient with X gun over Y gun.

All that can be summarized into one phrase : choose what fits you better.

ATK.

 

[Fastcast]

Thanks for the advice and votes guys! He is going with the SIG Sauer. The deal breaker was the long and "spongy" trigger on the Glock. The SIG trigger was "crisp" and much more affirmative.

Wise choice for a "first" sidearm!.....Better quality, better resale, better trigger & action for the range, Sigs seem less likely to shoot their owners , heirloom qualities-one will be proud to hand down to a child.....Not "just a tool".....Craftsmen - vs - Snap-On, Mac, Matco, SK etc.

 

[REAPER4206969]

He will regret his choice.

 

[Fastcast]

He will regret his choice.

LMAO.....I highly doubt that and I'm not really a Sig guy!

 

[REAPER4206969]

If he ever uses it for serious purposes he will. Inconsistent trigger, excessive weight and poor corrosion resistance are not desirable features.

 

[Sam1911]

Reaper, that's really not a fair statement. I don't like SIGs -- at all -- but every shooter has a different set of needs and concerns. I know (a few) Master class competitive shooters who use SIGs exclusively.

Some folks don't find weight to be a concern for them -- or appreciate the help in "taming" the recoil (such as it is).

Some folks claim to actually LIKE the DA/SA trigger for it's touted "safe" nature when decocked. The advantage may be illusory, but if it makes them happy, then great.

Some folks will oil their weapons on a regular (obsessive?) basis and never expose them to the elements and will have no problem with corrosion.

Chances are, bg226's buddy will be quite happy with his SIG, especially in the "new gun" glow, and that as he gains more experience, he will either become a die-hard SIG guy, or will transfer his newly developed skills to another platform he discovers that he likes even more -- a year or two down the road.

In either case, he's pretty unlikely to "regret" buying either gun.

 

[REAPER4206969]

Reaper, that's really not a fair statement.

True.

I don't like SIGs -- at all -- but every shooter has a different set of needs and concerns.

My post was not an argument against SIG's or for Glock's even. This is a new shooter that I'm sure doesn't have any educated needs and concerns with pistols. He bought what his buddy told him was good, not what he personally likes as he does not have enough experience to know what he likes. See here:

I argued about SIG quality and accuracy, but he tells me that he could nearly purchase 2 new Glocks for the price of one SIG.

So now his friend is stuck with an expensive pistol with little versatility that has several undesirable characteristics all because his friend was myopic.

 

[Fastcast]

If he ever uses it for serious purposes he will. Inconsistent trigger, excessive weight and poor corrosion resistance are not desirable features.

LMAO, again!......Sigs are used by armed forces and law enforcement all over the world and for good reason. Lets be realistic please.

http://www.sigsauer.com/lawenforcement/default.aspx