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I always refer to the better of the two games. COD4
FYI - you'll find that THR tends towards real life and not video games, and thus our terminology is that which is used in the adult gun community. If you try going to a gun shop or gun show and use COD4 terminology, you'll get little other than blank stares. :)

So I have to ask - are y'all actually old enough to go gun shopping and shooting at the range? If not, that would make it difficult to make an informed and appropriate choice.
 
COD4

Noob tube = 40mm underslung 'nade launcher. Pro Pipe = shotgun. In COD4 it took ALOT more skill to get kills with a shotgun class than any class outfitted with a 40mm.

CODMW2

Noob tube = shotgun or 40mm or M79

I always refer to the better of the two games. COD4.

I just learned something new.

Lets be honest its not only children who play video games so acting like that is the case is silly and makes one suggesting such look foolish, old, and out of touch. That said, not everyone here will be up on your gamer speak and thus wont know what the heck you are talking about. Some people also seem to take real offense at it. In the interest of ease of communication sticking to proper English and gun terms is best.
 
We're not, and I suggest that you mind your tone - failing to remain on The High Road will garner unwanted attention from the moderator staff.

The fact that folks didn't understand your terminology doesn't imply any form of pissing match - it simply implies that you chose your terms poorly for the audience that you're addressing.

I asked a question in post #26, and I think that it bears answering.
are y'all actually old enough to go gun shopping and shooting at the range
If so - what stores and shotgun models are available for y'all to look at? Since fitment to a shotgun is key to its effective use, how will you select a given model?

There are many available options for inexpensive HD shotguns, ranging from Mossbergs and Mavericks to 870s and H&Rs/Norincos. Choosing one will depend upon what is available to you and what actually fits and feels best (as has been posted many times above).
 
Hard to beat a good used pump either an Remington 870 or Mossberg 500 (DONT EVER START THAT COMPARISON WAR) I like them in 12gauge but you can get both in 20ga too.
 
Low-budget can mean a lot of different things, so perhaps the next datapoint to capture is the amount of money that y'all can spend on the gun, and then the budget for range time/ammo. I always recommend that folk not spend all their cash on the gun and leave no money for recurring practice - running a shotgun effectively requires that you have physical familiarity with it, and that means range fees and ammo costs.

If the new-gun budget is less than $300, you can effectively rule out any semiauto worth having, barring a minor miracle. Of the choices in new pump guns, you'd be hard pressed to find a bad one so long as you shop for one that fits and appeals to your bud. I'm an 870 guy, but I have owned and liked Mossbergs as well. The 870 simply fits my hands better, and so I prefer it. It sounds weird, that guns have 'feel', but they do - and that 'feel' is very important. The shotgun is pointed and not aimed, and so it has to move like an extension of the body if you want to be effective with it....

12ga is the standard for HD, simply because it works and a variety of loads are available for it. A 12ga loaded with low-recoil (law enforcement) buckshot and recoil is very very tolerable, even for my fifteen year old kid. If you go 20ga, you will have fewer home defense (HD) or self-defense (SD) loads available but you can get #3 buck loads from a variety of manufacturers.
 
Based on what you've told us, this is what I would recommend.

Find a Trap and Skeet range, call them up, ask if they sell ammo or have any rent-able/loner shotguns. If they do, go try em out.

As far as the gun itself goes, I like the Remington 870, but thats just what I like, you might want to look into a Mossberg or Winchester, if they have them in your area. Go to a store (Big 5, Wallmart, Sportsmen's Warehouse) and handle the guns before you buy. You're looking for something that "just kinda feels right". (Probably not the most helpful sentence, but better than nothing)

Do you know anybody who is into guns, hunting, or anything like that who could help you out?

Good luck, and let us all what you eventually get.
 
at 5'11" I don't think a youth gun would feel right. You can look at them, but most likely they will be too short.

There are lots of good, used Mossberg 500's and Remington 870's out there with lots of good service still in them.
 
at 5'11" I don't think a youth gun would feel right. You can look at them, but most likely they will be too short.

There are lots of good, used Mossberg 500's and Remington 870's out there with lots of good service still in them.
That's the same thing I thought then I started messing around with the grandsons 870 youth. It's short, light and very fast handling. It's got a short stock but it's enough to get a decent sight picture and keep slugs in the center of mass out to 50 or so yards. I'm 5' 10" and 220 lbs.
 
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