Frommer Stop machine gun! What now...

[Life During Wartime]

According to wikipedia, the frommer stop was set up as a machine gun rig with two side by side upside down with 25 round mags each rigged for fully automatic (or some sort of gatling esque rapid fire). I noticed there was no source. Has anyone heard of this and does anyone have pics I would like to see this rig
and what would the ROF be like

 

[Carl N. Brown]

Rudolf Frommer is known as inventor of the Stop pistol. I don't know why it was called "Stop" or if "stop" has a meaning in Hungarian.

The Frommer M.17 pistol was also used in a dual mounted tripod that fired both pistols in full automatic. The pistols used were inserted upside down fed from 25 round box magazines.

Video at: www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6KGXpiN4Mk

Sounds like an attempt to answer the WWI Italian Villar Perosa twin mounted 9mm submachinegun that was originally mounted in the rear cockpit of biplanes and on the handlebars of bicycles, until someone came up with the bright idea of seperating them, adding a buttstock, and giving them to infantry for close quarters combat.

 

[Jim K]

That one got me. I never even heard of it. I suspect the Hungarians captured a Villar-Perosa, took it to Frommer and said something like, "We are as smart as the Italians, why don't we have something like this?" So he gave them one.

It boggles the mind that either of those guns would actually be adopted and used. Even given the sheer mass of the true machineguns of the day, it is hard to imagine something of the same size being anything less than awkward on the battlefield. It would be about the size (though not the weight) of a Maxim and a lot less effective. (And it would have the same problem as the famous Pedersen device - in order to terrify the enemy with your firepower, he first has to realize he is being shot at. With a pistol caliber on a battlefield, that may not happen.)

Jim

 

[Swing]

Wow. That's bizarre, even for the time period.



(Pew-pew!)

 

[rcmodel]

Now that would surely instill confidence in a solder while fighting off a bayonet charge.

It's not even big enough to get small and hide behind it!

rc

 

[Jim K]

No, but it is big enough that when you threw the verdammt thing at the enemy you might get lucky and hit two of them!

Jim