Ft Dix terrorists trained in PA

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we are fortunate that the domestic attackers (other than 9-11) have been so brain dead. . .

I don't think it's a trait that will continue indefinitely, however.

I fear that they're on a steep learning curve with respect to maintaining operational secrecy.

ARM AMERICA!

Stop terrorism in the 25 minutes before police arrive!

A nice thought, but that will provide little if any deterrence when it comes to suicide/homicide bombers.
 
That is pretty sick logic. A gang of drug dealers calling themselves a militia is the same as Islamic Terrorists? They made a video tape....

If you want to die on the vine that drug dealers are a militia go ahead

You left out the part about the plans to gun down Mexicans. Personally im glad both parties were shut down. I just find it ironic that in one instance the Government was crticized by some for taking action while in the other case they werent.
 
I too heard the spokesperson state that some were here illegally. They're the ones that are blowing up the buildings that regular Americans are too lazy to do. - romma


Hahahahahaha!!! Good stuff, I'm quoting you in my sig. That is too funny.
 
SamTuckerMTNMAN said:
Once I learned that more rattle snakes harm people than black snakes, I paid more attention to the rattlers while watching the black snakes with curiosity.

Of course, using the same logic on humans is somehow racist and "illogical"

?

ST

Maybe it's because humans are all one species. Rattlesnakes and black snakes are two separate species and therefore you can't compare them to one another. Also, it's possible to judge humans on a case-by-case basis - that's what it means to be an intelligent, unprejudiced person. For instance, right now I'm thinking that you're an ignorant racist. That's not because of anything you have no control over, it's because of what you say.

:neener:
 
Arfin: good links which included the following:

Fort Dix is used to train soldiers, particularly reservists. It also housed refugees from Kosovo in 1999.

Time for a history lesson and a look back:

We bombed the wrong side?

The National Post, April 6, 2004
Comment, Page A14
By Canadian General Lewis MacKenzie

Five years ago our television screens were dominated by pictures of Kosovo-Albanian refugees escaping across Kosovo's borders to the sanctuaries of Macedonia and Albania. Shrill reports indicated that Slobodan Milosevic's security forces were conducting a campaign of genocide and that at least 100,000 Kosovo-Albanians had been exterminated and buried in mass graves throughout the Serbian province. NATO sprung into action and, in spite of the fact no member nation of the alliance was threatened, commenced bombing not only Kosovo, but the infrastructure and population of Serbia itself -- without the authorizing United Nations resolution so revered by Canadian leadership, past and present.

Those of us who warned that the West was being sucked in on the side of an extremist, militant, Kosovo-Albanian independence movement were dismissed as appeasers. The fact that the lead organization spearheading the fight for independence, the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA), was universally designated a terrorist organization and known to be receiving support from Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda was conveniently ignored.

The recent dearth of news in the North American media regarding the increase in violence in Kosovo compared to the comprehensive coverage in the European press strongly suggests that we Canadians don't like to admit it when we are wrong. On the contrary, selected news clips on this side of the ocean continue to reinforce the popular spin that those dastardly Serbs are at it again.

A case in point was the latest crisis that exploded on March 15. The media reported that four Albanian boys had been chased into the river Ibar in Mitrovica by at least two Serbs and a dog (the dog's ethnic affiliation was not reported).Three of the boys drowned and one escaped to the other side. Immediately, thousands of Albanians mobilized and concentrated in the area of the divided city. Attacks on Serbs took place throughout the province resulting in an estimated 30 killed and 600 wounded. Thirty Serbian Christian Orthodox churches and monasteries were destroyed, more than 300 homes were burnt to the ground and six Serbian villages cleansed of their occupants. One hundred and fifty international peacekeepers were injured.

Totally ignored in North America were the numerous statements from impartial sources that said there was no incident between the Serbs, the dog and the Albanian boys. NATO Police spokesman Derek Chappell stated on March 16 that it was "definitely not true" that the boys had been chased into the river by Serbs. Chappell went on to say that the surviving boy had told his parents that they had entered the river alone and that three of his friends had been swept away by the current. Admiral Gregory Johnson, the overall NATO commander, further stated that the ensuing clashes were "orchestrated and well-planned ethnic cleansing" by the Kosovo-Albanians. Those Serbs forced to leave joined the 200,000 who had been cleansed from the province since NATO's "humanitarian" bombing in 1999. The '"cleansees" have become very effective "cleansers."

In the same week a number of individuals posing as Serbs ambushed and killed a UN policeman and his local police partner. During the firefight one of them was wounded which caused an immediate switch from Serbian to Albanian as he screamed, "I've been hit"! The UN pursued the attackers and tracked them to an Albanian-run farm where they discovered weapons and the wounded Albanian who had died from his wounds. Four Albanians were arrested. Once again, the ambush had been reported in the United States but not the follow-up which clearly indicated yet another orchestrated provocation by the Albanian terrorists.

Kosovo is administered by the UN, the very organization many Canadians have indicated they would like to see take over from the United States in Iraq. The fact the UN cannot order its civilian employees to go or stay anywhere -- they have to volunteer -- combined with recent history that saw the UN abandon Iraq after a single brutal attack on their compound in Baghdad and the reality that Kosovo, under the organization's administration, is a basket case, disqualifies it from consideration for such a role.

Since the NATO/UN intervention in 1999, Kosovo has become the crime capital of Europe. The sex slave trade is flourishing. The province has become an invaluable transit point for drugs en route to Europe and North America. Ironically, the majority of the drugs come from another state "liberated" by the West, Afghanistan. Members of the demobilized, but not eliminated, KLA are intimately involved in organized crime and the government. The UN police arrest a small percentage of those involved in criminal activities and turn them over to a judiciary with a revolving door that responds to bribes and coercion.

The objective of the Albanians is to purge all non-Albanians, including the international community's representatives, from Kosovo and ultimately link up with mother Albania thereby achieving the goal of "Greater Albania." The campaign started with their attacks on Serbian security forces in the early 1990s and they were successful in turning Milosevic's heavy-handed response into worldwide sympathy for their cause. There was no genocide as claimed by the West -- the 100,000 allegedly buried in mass graves turned out to be around 2,000, of all ethnic origins, including those killed in combat during the war itself.

The Kosovo-Albanians have played us like a Stradivarius. We have subsidized and indirectly supported their violent campaign for an ethnically pure and independent Kosovo. We have never blamed them for being the perpetrators of the violence in the early '90s and we continue to portray them as the designated victim today in spite of evidence to the contrary. When they achieve independence with the help of our tax dollars combined with those of bin Laden and al-Qaeda, just consider the message of encouragement this sends to other terrorist-supported independence movements around the world.

Funny how we just keep digging the hole deeper!


Maj-Gen. Lewis MacKenzie, now retired, commanded UN troops during the Bosnian civil war of 1992.
 
A nice thought, but that will provide little if any deterrence when it comes to suicide/homicide bombers.
True. On the other hand, it would have been quite effective at stopping the "Dix Six" if they had actually gotten as far as attempting their operation.

As the Israelis demonstrate, nothing is especially effective at deterring suicide bombers--so we might as well be using armed citizens as soldiers. Armed citizens can limit the effectiveness of suicide bombers, though. For example, shooting them before they reach their target will at least lower the body count. And unsuccessful operations will tend to deter future ops; their primary motivation is the perception that suicide attacks work.

--Len.
 
They may occasionally disrupt terrorist plans but will have no major impact on the terrorist threat.
 
I heard on MSNBC over lunch that three of these guys had around 54 previous
arrests for driving without a license and some miscellaneous drug charges,
but it wasn't known if their immigration status was ever checked because
supposedly NJ doesn't do that....

Also,

http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/index.ssf?/base/news-11/1178866290289360.xml&coll=1

The Dukas, natives of Macedonia who had entered the United States illegally through Mexico in 1984, lived in Brooklyn at the time. Later, they moved to Cherry Hill.

Ahhh....1984....

“The simple truth is that we've lost control of our own borders, and no nation can do that and survive. We ignore America's lost sovereignty at our peril.”
- Ronald Reagan

Is Ronald rolling yet?
 
They also trained in passive-aggressive behavior in Philadelphia.

Turns out, one of them worked in the 7-11 down the street, the place I'd often go after working out at the school gym. If any employee at this particular ever smiled, I believe they'd be docked in pay -- actual glares get the extra dime-per-hour there, it seems.

timothy
 
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