g19 vs Walther 99

[MoreIsLess]

Is the Walther PPQ larger or smaller than the G19

 

[lexjj]

The two guns are virtually identical in size. Were seriously talking a couple tenths of an inch at most in any direction. I think the PPQ is like one-hundredth of an inch wider or something because of the slide lock lever (but actually looks and feels slimmer).

 

[lexjj]

This link shows several pictures comparing the PPQ and G19 in size

http://glocktalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=18340277&postcount=37

 

[legion3]

Hey those are my pics

The ppq is bigger all around but not so much so to make a real difference.

I won't ever get rid of my glocks but I might get another ppq.
certainly will wait for a ppq compact.

 

[Kevin 45]

If you want a SA/DA gun, then the Walther P99AS is the only horse in the race (and it is pretty damned nice anyway).

Between a Glock 19 and Walther PPQ, I chose the PPQ.

I think the argument in some ways boils down to this: The PPQ is the better gun, but the Glock has better availability for basically everything.

Why I think the PPQ is a better gun:
1. The trigger is the best of any of the "safe action" style triggers out there, and is good enough that it rivals or surpasses the single action triggers of some 1911's and many da/sa guns. It is the best trigger because:
A. It is smooth
B. It is the lightest
C. It has the shortest reset (and is thus the fastest)
D. It has a comfortable curve to help your finger maximize the other qualities

2. The gun's ergonomics are fantastic. The Glock ergo's are typically love it or hate it. I am firmly in the hate it camp. That is preference, but I've never seen (or frankly read of) a person who held a PPQ and said, "the ergonomics suck."
A. Interchangeable backstraps that make noticeable changes in the gun's fit
B. Frantastic purchase on the frame because of the HK style texture
C. ambidextrous everything
D. The magazine release takes a little getting used to (I was because I have a P22), but once you do, I believe it is faster, easier, and more conducive to keeping a consistent grip
E. The slide serrations are useful

3. The guns are now equally priced (or the PPQ is cheaper). I paid $520 out the door. I have started seeing PPQ's for $480ish online. Glock Gen 4 is right in that neighborhood.

HOWEVER

There is no denying that the Glock has more aftermarket support, availability, and generally at a reduced price.

1. It looks like it is going to be hard to get Walther spare parts, and Glock parts are easy to get. Smith and Wesson does Walther's importing, and it looks like they hoard a lot of the spare parts.

2. Magazines for the Walther are ridiculous. They are hard to find, and are expensive. If you are the kind of guy who buys 10 magazines for every pistol he owns, then you can delete my argument that the Walther is cheaper. There are some workarounds on the Walther mags, but even those are still expensive.

3. Holster availability is definitely pro Glock. Every holster manufacturer makes like 3 models for a Glock 19. Manufacturers are starting to really jump on the PPQ...but still, even best case scenario, Glock 19 will rule.

4. Sights, barrels, other stuff...Definitely Glock.


So, obviously, even with those negatives, I came down on the side of the PPQ (and I will also someday own a P99AS), but that is basically how it broke down in my mind.

Hi i am surprised to Read That several people said That the Walther trigger Is better because it it breaks at 9 £ in d.a. While Glock breaks at 5.5£.Please tell me if the grip Is really bad for a user with weak hands and which one of the guns is better for That Person.Is the Walther a Much better option for Small hands because recoil trigger pull and grip are not uncomfortable?Thanx

 

[guyfromohio]

I have aP99AS, G19, and PPQ. They are all three "keepers" and each has a place in my HD setup. That being said, the P99AS is by far my favorite. The trigger is fantastic and lacks the redundant dangly do-hicky not-a-safety thing. It points more naturally and hits truer than every other non-1911 firearm I own. I wouldn't worry about parts availability as its not gonna break.

 

[Darkstar888]

The P99 is a real masterpiece. World class ergonomics and reliability with a u unique DA/SA striker fired trigger that is truly excellent with a super short reset. Easy to rack the slide on too. The paddle mag release is superior to a button in my book. Much sexier than a Glock. The PPQ is excellent as well. Just depends if you want a DA/SA or a SA only trigger.

 

[guyfromohio]

Here is a link to a thread that very lightly compares the G19 to the P99 and a few others. I didn't have a PPQ at the time. I do now. Still like the P99 better.

https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...ry-guns-cz-vs-glock-vs-sig-vs-walther.811068/

 

[jjones45]

I actually like walther striker fired guns more than glock and would definitely pick the p99 over the g19 if I could only have one. However, if I could have both I would carry the g19 more than the p99 because it conceals better for me. If concealed carry isn't an option I would go walther p99 over glock even more so. The ergonomics, stock trigger and sights of the walther are superior to glocks in my opinion. With that said don't believe anyone who says glocks are bad guns. They are lying. They might not be the best for everyone, but they are excellent firearms. When someone calls a proven handgun useless I really don't trust anything else they say about guns because they obviously let their personal feelings cloud their judgment. Why people can't dislike a gun without bashing it is beyond me.

 

[Darkstar888]

The P99c is the best carry gun you can get in my opinion. And carry a 15rd (16rd preban available) backup mag with grip adaptor.

 

[Winkman822]

As someone who has both, I far prefer the Walther to the Glock. For me, the Walther has better ergonomics and I'm a DA/SA guy. The problems with the P99 are limited availability of replacement parts and accessories, and like HK, mags are expensive. Mags for the Walther P99 are also not as readily available as Glock mags.

 

[Tcruse]

If you do not like the trigger on the Glock, there are many choices of connectors in the less than $20 range to change it to something you do like. Also, you do not need to pay a gunsmith to change or fix anything on a Glock, all replaceable with not more than a punch. There is no doubt that many people like the PPx guns and that is fine. With about 20K thru my G17 Gen 4, still no parts need replacement.
The question for me always comes back to, "If you could have only one gun what would it be?"
It seems that many (most?) people will choose a Glock G17 or G19, just as the FBI and Special Forces have recently.

 

[Kendal Black]

I like the Glock. I like the grip angles of the Ruger .22 pistol, the Luger and the Lahti, and my hands are pretty big, so I have no trouble with the ergonomics.

As in the above post, if you are any sort of home gunsmith, the Glock is easy to fix. The Glock's high degree of market penetration means reliability is a known quantity, because there are lots of Glocks getting lots of use, and its track record is that little goes wrong, as a rule.

 

[Fishbed77]

I own a Glock 19 (and several other Glocks) and Walther P99AS and shoot both quite a bit.

In a direct pistol-to-pistol comparison, the P99AS is superior. It has a much better trigger feel, feels better in hand, has much better fit & finish, carries better due to the shape of the slide and and grip (despite being about identical in size), and the paddle-release is a superior system (I know many will disagree on this point, but I'm looking at it purely based on function rather than familiarity). In my experience, the P99AS is a more durable and reliable firearm as well, and I've never encountered any other semi-auto pistol that can reliably digest as wide a range of ammo types as the P99. The Anti-Stress (AS) DA/SA trigger system is brilliant, and the P99AS has been my primary home defense pistol for years now, as this system is perfect for "bump-in-the-night" duty in disorienting darkness.

All that said, I shoot the Glock 19 just as well as the P99AS, and the ubiquitous nature of accessories and the ease of acquiring spare parts means the pistol has a lot going for it. P99AS magazines and accessories are easy to find online, but basic spare parts (like recoil springs) are much less easy to acquire and usually require a phone call to Walther America.

 

[mgmorden]

I don't own these exact guns but I do own two pretty close to them (Glock 17 and a SW99).

Between the two, I'd give the edge to the Walther strictly in functionality. It's slimmer, feels better in the hand, and has a better trigger. The only thing I don't like would be the paddle mag release but that isn't a deal breaker.

Aftermarket support will be much better on the Glock, however in all fairness the P99 just doesn't need much aftermarket support. Maybe replace the sights but other than that its good.

 

[hessy]

PPQ is slightly taller than G19. I was trained with G19 and carried G17 and G19 for, hate to say, almost 30 years, so Gen4 G19 is the gun I carry. But PPQ is a great gun with a very light trigger. You need to be trained well not to double-tap it when adrenaline rushes. Also, the rear sight on PPQ is a bit fragile. As far as P99, I haven't met anyone who was issued a German P99 around here.

 

[Fishbed77]

Hi i am surprised to Read That several people said That the Walther trigger Is better because it it breaks at 9 £ in d.a. While Glock breaks at 5.5£.

Trigger quality is not all about weight.

The single-action trigger pull of the P99AS is about 4.5 lbs and is vastly superior in feel, consistency, and crispness when compared to a Glock trigger. Reset is extremely short and tactile. The double-action trigger pull is 8.5 lbs and it is still much smoother and more crisp than a Glock trigger pull.

The problems with the P99 are limited availability of replacement parts and accessories, and like HK, mags are expensive. Mags for the Walther P99 are also not as readily available as Glock mags.

Magnum Research MR9 (a licenced copy of the P99) magazines (which are made by Mec-Gar and are 100% identical to the OEM P99 mags) are easily found online for under $30. The only difference between the two magazines is that Mec-Gar molds "Magnum Research" on the baseplate of one and "Walther" on the baseplate of the other.

I have a few of these magazines, and like the identical Walther-branded ones, the quality is impeccable.

Here they are at Bud's (the image is incorrect but model number (MAGFA915) and description verifies these are the correct magazines):

https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog...sories/Magazines/MAG+MAGFA915+MAG+BE+9MM+15RD

All that said, the Walther-branded magazines are also available right around $30:

http://www.manventureoutpost.com/products/Walther-Mag-9MM-15Rd-Blue-P99-2796465.html?google=1

 

[JDR]

I get more use out of my Gen3 G-19 and my Walther PPS M2 than just about any other semiautomatics that I own.

 

[herrwalther]

For personal carry I will carry my P99 anytime. I do have my eye on a few other Walthers for caliber need and smaller footprints. But I am most comfortable with the P99. If I were picking a duty gun it would be a G19 for the similar size and handling.