Gave Up My Gun Today
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thefitzvh
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I think informing an officer you are legally carrying has NOTHING to do with "incriminating" yourself.
After all, you're carrying legally.
Psychologically, I think it comes down to this: The possession of a CCW generally implies a law abiding, responsible citizen. Many LEOs I've met know this. Therefore, when they see a CCW, they are probably relieved slightly.
Securing the weapon? Just removing another variable from the situation.
Not to mention, in a state where you may or may not identify, this is the equivalent to a "peace offering." You're providing information to help the officer assess the situation. If you DON'T identify youself as a CCW holder, and he sees the gun when you bend over to get your license, etc, then it's a bad situation.
I think this is one situation where volunteering information to an "armed agent of the state" is OK... we can leave our tinfoil hats off on this one.
James
After all, you're carrying legally.
Psychologically, I think it comes down to this: The possession of a CCW generally implies a law abiding, responsible citizen. Many LEOs I've met know this. Therefore, when they see a CCW, they are probably relieved slightly.
Securing the weapon? Just removing another variable from the situation.
Not to mention, in a state where you may or may not identify, this is the equivalent to a "peace offering." You're providing information to help the officer assess the situation. If you DON'T identify youself as a CCW holder, and he sees the gun when you bend over to get your license, etc, then it's a bad situation.
I think this is one situation where volunteering information to an "armed agent of the state" is OK... we can leave our tinfoil hats off on this one.
James
Orthonym
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What was that about, artherd?
Not equipped to play movies on this machine. Don't want to, either.
Not equipped to play movies on this machine. Don't want to, either.
BluesBear
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Dead link, artherd
BluesBear
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Wildalaska, I think you did just fine.
Which was proven, of course, by the pleasant conclusion.
Which was proven, of course, by the pleasant conclusion.
twoblink
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I've always been cooperative with a good attitude and a smile to the officers I've met. And in return, I've yet to get a ticket 
Respect begets respect.
Respect begets respect.
The_Antibubba
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What Heinlein said
This seems like a perfect illustration of "An armed society is a polite society".
As a legally armed, responsible citizen, you not only obeyed the letter of the law, but the spirit of it. In a friendly, polite manner, you not only informed the LEO that you were legally armed, but (implicit in that) that you were fully deserving to be so. Seeing you as an armed, responsible and morally right person (a lawbreaker would not be CCW or polite), he treated you as an equal, or, at least, as one who had earned a greater level of respect than a regular citizen.
Sometimes, I think that saying, "I know my rights!" is the worst thing you can say. First, a lot of people who say it really don't know their rights, but they don't want to look too easily cowed. Second, a lot of them sound like they are really saying, "You don't have any rights over me!" Third, the people who usually say these things rarely take the opportunity to exercise those rights in the first place, or fight for them, and so exercise them somewhat hypocritically.
You knew the law. You knew what the correct procedures were, and you followed them.
And, whatever your personal feelings toward police officers may be, you treated him with the respect that the uniform, and the position, accords him. And, rightly so, he responded to you in kind.
Bet you didn't realize you were this deep!
This seems like a perfect illustration of "An armed society is a polite society".
As a legally armed, responsible citizen, you not only obeyed the letter of the law, but the spirit of it. In a friendly, polite manner, you not only informed the LEO that you were legally armed, but (implicit in that) that you were fully deserving to be so. Seeing you as an armed, responsible and morally right person (a lawbreaker would not be CCW or polite), he treated you as an equal, or, at least, as one who had earned a greater level of respect than a regular citizen.
Sometimes, I think that saying, "I know my rights!" is the worst thing you can say. First, a lot of people who say it really don't know their rights, but they don't want to look too easily cowed. Second, a lot of them sound like they are really saying, "You don't have any rights over me!" Third, the people who usually say these things rarely take the opportunity to exercise those rights in the first place, or fight for them, and so exercise them somewhat hypocritically.
You knew the law. You knew what the correct procedures were, and you followed them.
And, whatever your personal feelings toward police officers may be, you treated him with the respect that the uniform, and the position, accords him. And, rightly so, he responded to you in kind.
Bet you didn't realize you were this deep!
shooter1
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SteveW13,
You must be in LE. You know all the right things to do to get the special treatment!
str1
You must be in LE. You know all the right things to do to get the special treatment!
str1
BowStreetRunner
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i think you did the right thin WildAlaska
BSR
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Did the right thing. In the last 2 years i have been pulled over 6 times. I have not been pulled over since I had my CHL. I have not gotten a ticket however. I just keep hand on the wheel till they get to the window, tell them that I'm going to open the glove box to get the registration and otherwise just be polite. One of those times I was going 73 in a 55 and had no proof of insureance with me and it was a female cop with a guy riding with her. I got off with a warning. She did ask why I had multiple VHF/UHF/HF radios in the car. Its all in the attitude as far as I'm concerned.
Samurai Penguin
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I share WA's attitude and dealing-with-LEO tactics. This is why I haven't recieved a moving violation in over 12 years, six of which have been spent as a truck driver. Good job, WA!
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SodiumBenzoate
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Even moreso than Vermont? Woah.
Vermont seems really loose, with 16 year olds legally carrying handguns and all, but I suppose they have more control in different areas.
And yes, you did do the right thing. Although it isn't required by law to notify the officer in PA, I think it would be a good idea to.
Peetmoss
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As my mom always told me you get more with honey then you do with vininger.
faustulus
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the only person whose opinion matters on how the situation was handled seems to be satisfied.
Orthonym
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Broke a traffic rule and got away with it because the cop thought he was cool. Sounds like either special favoritism (letting him off) or officious unnecessary enforcement in the first place (no other cars anywhere near) to me.
Nah, traffic rules are just traffic rules. Traffic stop does not give cop excuse to look any farther. When there's no traffic, no traffic rules. That said, don't pull me over unless yer ready to go to court, with a valid citation.
Just my $1/50.
Nah, traffic rules are just traffic rules. Traffic stop does not give cop excuse to look any farther. When there's no traffic, no traffic rules. That said, don't pull me over unless yer ready to go to court, with a valid citation.
Just my $1/50.
Zach S
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I think you handled it well. Evidently the officer did too.
Topgun
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Shoulda......RUN !!!!
Your actions will make for lousy TV on "Cops." You were SUPPOSED to .....RUN...... hit the gas, take er up to 105, careen over curbs, rip off tires, drive an additional 37 miles on sparking rims while ramming cop cars and other traffic.
Then......wildly reach under seat, go for glove compartment, throw some stuff out the winda, and REFUSE to leave the car.
Then....get dragged out through the window, have 14 cops sit on your ear and cuff you while you scream out.......
....."What'd I DO?"
(with no shirt)
Your actions will make for lousy TV on "Cops." You were SUPPOSED to .....RUN...... hit the gas, take er up to 105, careen over curbs, rip off tires, drive an additional 37 miles on sparking rims while ramming cop cars and other traffic.
Then......wildly reach under seat, go for glove compartment, throw some stuff out the winda, and REFUSE to leave the car.
Then....get dragged out through the window, have 14 cops sit on your ear and cuff you while you scream out.......
....."What'd I DO?"
(with no shirt)
keyhole
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Handled well. Remember, you can laugh about it, and it did not cost ammo/ gun money!
BerettaNut92
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No, but it makes you a sherson. Sheeple is plural...duh...
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