pulled over this afternoon on my 4 wheeler

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i was riding my 4 wheeler this afternoon, and got pulled over by the local police.
in my town, it is legal to ride on the secondary streets providing you have a recreational sticker ($8.50 good for 3 years)

the officer told me that he pulled me over just to verify that i did indeed have my sticker. he was polite, and then i told him that i was carrying, and had my c.c.w. permit, he then asked to see my licence, and permit. i showed him, and then he started asking me questions like what i carried, and kinda just shooting the b.s. it was an alright trafic stop turned even better by having my permit. i hope if i have any other trafic stops, they turn out as good. so maybee the c.c.w. is better than just added protection!:D
 
People have remarked that many cops have figured out that CCW="dude who has passed a background check and is real likely to be harmless".
 
yah in ohio, pretty much the first thing out of your mouth should be " offercer, i have a c.c.w permit, and i am carrying... what would you like me to do?

i was pulled over in my car about a month ago, and told the state trooper that, and he asked me where my gun was, i told him, and he just asked for my licence, paermit, and proof of insurance. he was completely cool about the gun like i had told him i had a ham sandwich in the glove box or something simple like that.
 
Are you required to inform in Ohio? If not, I would not have volunteered it unless asked. But everything turned out well.
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Yes. In Ohio,whenever you, as a carry permit holder, encounter an officer in an official capacity (pulled over, giving a statement, looking at him/her funny), you are required to inform them promptly that you have a permit and are carrying. Failure to do so is bad.
 
As a patrol officer I find that 99% or CCW holders are alright people. I will usually b.s. with them and find out what they are carrying and generally talk guns with them. When I do have to write a ticket it generally goes pretty well because they understand that I am doing my job. And depending on their attitudes I will generally let 9 out of 10 off with a warning unless it is something really blatent like 20 mph over the speed limit. There is the 1% that I have run into that are a-holes and immediately I go from being "good cop" to "Im going to keep you here for an extra 20 minutes AND write you a ticket cop."

Politeness goes a LONG way. Especially when you are packing.
 
Common courtesy goes a long way. I was pulled over about 2 years ago (the only time I've ever been pulled over) for speeding. I tried explaining to the cop that he clocked the other guy who was passing me but I got a ticket anyway. Since I was allegedly going 57 in a 35, they hit me for excessive speeding and had to bring me to base PMO. My manners didn't go un-noticed. Had his Lieutenant not pulled up, he told me he would've just given me a warning. If you're an A-Hole to the cop, expect to be treated like one. If you're nice guy, expect to be treated like one. The only exception is that 10% of A-Holes in the world that are like that just because they can (like his Lieutenant).
 
well i did get the ticket for speeding (80 in a 65) so its not like i was just a "few" over. plus i had accessive window tint, and no fron licence plate wich i was given warnings for. but a job is a job right? i was at fault, and payed for it. no attitudes given either way and that was that.
 
Originally posted by FieroCDSP:
Yes. In Ohio,whenever you, as a carry permit holder, encounter an officer in an official capacity (pulled over, giving a statement, looking at him/her funny), you are required to inform them promptly that you have a permit and are carrying. Failure to do so is bad.
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OK. I may never use this knowledge, but at least I'll have it. :cool:

In Arizona we are not required to inform, i.e., volunteer the information, but are required to answer truthfully if asked.
 
If one has a permit issued from their home state but is pulled over in another state (with recipricocity) how do you know if you should inform the LEO or not?

Because of that I would think you should always inform them no matter where you are.
 
If you are traveling in another state, with reciprocity, you're are supposed to know the local laws and abide by them.

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If one has a permit issued from their home state but is pulled over in another state (with recipricocity) how do you know if you should inform the LEO or not?
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I don't believe states share permit information with each other routinely, so the police officer would probably not know you are carrying.
 
I read somewhere that in Ohio you cannot carry concealed in a vehicle, that your handgun must be carried openly. Bad information?
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That information is out of date. As of march you can carry concealed on your person. In the glove box. Or in a closed container while in your car.
 
what? I am confused.

At first reading I thought "***? the cop pulled him over just to check is his sticker/licence? That's not right! they need probable cause!"

Then it comes out you were speeding, but I am also confused by the tinted windows. I guess when people say "four wheeler" I assume ATV (remember the first ones were 3 wheelers, so the quads got called 4 wheelers)

I guess on occasion I hear about guys going out '4 wheeling' to mean off-roading, but I have never heard of them refer to there truck or jeep or whatever as a 4-wheeler

so was the speeding and tinted windows comments refering to a different encounter with the police, or this encounter?
 
yes the incident yesterday was on an a.t.v. the tinted windows thing was a few months ago in my car when i was doing something bad.

yesterday i was in no violation, but still got pulled over. no probbable cause, but then again, is there a probable cause when you come to a roadside check point?
 
I always keep a gun in my glove box where my vehicle documentation is. On the rare occasions that I am pulled I politely inform the officer I have a legal gun with my documentation and that I have a CCW permit. In Florida I don't believe we are required to notice LEOs of a gun but I have found doing this VERY beneficial. I have gotten of with a warnings in every case except one. In that incident I was given two lesser tickets ($7.50 each and no points) instead of a much greater ticket ($100+ and 3 points).
 
My understanding on Roadside Checkpoints is that they are constantly coming under scrutiny for just the issues we are raising. I think in a few years all of them will be disallowed, but for now IIRC roadside checkpoints must be checking every vehicle, OR every Xth vehicle, and then allowed to also pull over anyone who is actually doing something wrong (even if it is drifting over the white line)

What you cannot do is man a roadside checkpoint and pull over people for looking suspicious, such as being a fancy car full of young black men, a car full of long haired hippies, sportscars, or even cars coming back from a concert with the concert parking lot sticker still on them.
 
I don't believe states share permit information with each other routinely, so the police officer would probably not know you are carrying.
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In Virginia, we're not required to inform, but the information comes up when the officer runs our drivers license. I would imagine that information would be availabe to any out of state officer also, but don't know that for sure.
 
Always good to check packing.org. It seems to keep up on latest laws on reciprocity. During my recent trip to the smokies I checked on all the states I would be visiting. Only one I didn't carry in was N. Carolina, but that was because of the National Park.
 
Probable cause is not the legal standard for a legitimate traffic stop. A traffic stop requires reasonable suspicion, a much lower burden of proof. If you are required to have and display a permit to use the vehicle, but the permit is not readily visible, the officer would appear to have reasonable suspicion that you do not have the required permit.
 
right, i could agree wih that. my sticker was placed on my fourwheeler where the instructions on sticker indicated me to place it. but i am guessing by the officer stating to me that i was the first one he had pulled over that actualy had a sticker, he probably was surprised i even stopped, and didn't run from him like most people do.

of course it being an atv usualy they are covered in mud, he would have to pull over someone to see if they had one anyway.
 
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