Giving up on LnL's primer system

[cmcgehee]

Received my press back from Hornady. After replacing 13 parts and returning to me, the press and primer system works perfectly and very smooth. Thanks to Hornady for backing up their product and for the quick service in making a problem product work correctly. I am 100% pleased!

 

[ljnowell]

Received my press back from Hornady. After replacing 13 parts and returning to me, the press and primer system works perfectly and very smooth. Thanks to Hornady for backing up their product and for the quick service in making a problem product work correctly. I am 100% pleased!

And THAT is the most important thing. It stinks that you went through the headache, but they made it right.

 

[cmcgehee]

And THAT is the most important thing. It stinks that you went through the headache, but they made it right.

Yes...and one advantage I have...I learned every adjustment and every part on this press in the process of trying to fix things myself and looking at every you tube available. Now, I can adjust everything on it perfect. I appreciate Hornady's help!

 

[Blue68f100]

Good to hear...

Now you have to get to work.......

 

[ljnowell]

Yes...and one advantage I have...I learned every adjustment and every part on this press in the process of trying to fix things myself and looking at every you tube available. Now, I can adjust everything on it perfect. I appreciate Hornady's help!

That knowledge is worth the headache too!! I think every manufacturer makes good products. They all have their quirks we just have to learn them.

I have all lee presses. A few progressives, a turret, and and two single stages. My brother recently started reloading and he went with a lee classic turret. After a while he decided to go progressive, so he went with a pro1000. He knew I used one, but he had heard the stories of "hours of fine tuning" and "tinkering non stop." I assured him that there would be no tinkering and I would help him set it up.

After the learning curve I had I was able to get him set up from box to loaded rounds in 45 minutes. That included mounting it. That experience is invaluable, just like yours.

 

[cmcgehee]

Good to hear...

Now you have to get to work.......

Yes...I loaded 1000 rounds today without a hiccup....

 

[cmcgehee]

That knowledge is worth the headache too!! I think every manufacturer makes good products. They all have their quirks we just have to learn them.

I have all lee presses. A few progressives, a turret, and and two single stages. My brother recently started reloading and he went with a lee classic turret. After a while he decided to go progressive, so he went with a pro1000. He knew I used one, but he had heard the stories of "hours of fine tuning" and "tinkering non stop." I assured him that there would be no tinkering and I would help him set it up.

After the learning curve I had I was able to get him set up from box to loaded rounds in 45 minutes. That included mounting it. That experience is invaluable, just like yours.

Mine were not just quirks. I had some defective parts that had to be replaced but I gained a lot of knowledge trying to work the problems out before we got the parts replaced. Once that happened it was very easy to fine tune.

 

[ljnowell]

Mine were not just quirks. I had some defective parts that had to be replaced but I gained a lot of knowledge trying to work the problems out before we got the parts replaced. Once that happened it was very easy to fine tune.

I know that. The point was that you now have extensive knowledge of that machine and what makes it work. The quirks will appear the more a press gets used.

 

[cmcgehee]

I know that. The point was that you now have extensive knowledge of that machine and what makes it work. The quirks will appear the more a press gets used.

ljnowell....I agree 100%. Did not mean my post to sound argumentive. I appreciate all the great advice I get from users on this forum.

 

[GaryL]

Received my press back from Hornady. After replacing 13 parts and returning to me, the press and primer system works perfectly and very smooth. Thanks to Hornady for backing up their product and for the quick service in making a problem product work correctly. I am 100% pleased!

Good to know (even though it doesn't affect me at the moment).

Now you should change the title to add something about hope and faith restored. If you can - I don't recall if that's an option here.

 

[9mmepiphany]

After replacing 13 parts and returning to me, the press and primer system works perfectly and very smooth.

Just curious, did they include a list of which parts they replaced?

Could you share it?

 

[Master Blaster]

Apparently Hornady uses worn tooling that is the only explanation for the widely varying tolerances and fit and finish I constantly read about here. The only answer is that you may need to send the press back as they have a lack of competent quality control.
I have a LNL and a Dillon 550 and have loaded many tens of thousands of rounds on both. The QC difference between the manufacturing of the two presses in apparent in the many LNL problem posts here.

 

[Guy B. Meredith]

I have an LNL AP with a serial number in the 600s. I updated to the new feed tube arrangement when it came out.

The problems I've had are all about dirt and powder getting into the mechanism. I've reloaded somewhere around 30,000 rounds so far. Losing count now as I based it on how many 5000 count cases of WSP I had used, but cannot afford that quantity purchase now and lose track of the number of boxes of1000 count.

 

[cmcgehee]

Just curious, did they include a list of which parts they replaced?

Could you share it?

Yes...They replaced the following:
LocknLoad AP bracket
Spring primer slide
AP breakaway cam wire
Sub Plate
Drive Hub
Pawls
Breakaway cam plunger
Breakaway cam spring
Misc. small parts..nuts & etc

They also replaced two parts that are not shown on their schematic or on their published parts list

#392216 Rollers (2)
#392217 Shaft Roller (2)

 

[cmcgehee]

Apparently Hornady uses worn tooling that is the only explanation for the widely varying tolerances and fit and finish I constantly read about here. The only answer is that you may need to send the press back as they have a lack of competent quality control.
I have a LNL and a Dillon 550 and have loaded many tens of thousands of rounds on both. The QC difference between the manufacturing of the two presses in apparent in the many LNL problem posts here.

The main thing I noticed on my original press as far as machining...I had to sandpaper both primer slides a lot before they would slide under the primer tube housing body #398819A

It was also impossible to adjust the pawls so the shell plates would line up on both the upstroke and downstroke. After receiving my press back with the replaced parts, I have no problem adjusting anything on the press.

 

[9mmepiphany]

I'm going to take a wild guess and highlight these two as the main culprits

Sub Plate
Drive Hub

 

[cmcgehee]

I'm going to take a wild guess and highlight these two as the main culprits

You are correct....