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Beware of "Hillbilly Gunsmithing"

For $100, I would buy it and send it to Glock with instructions to "Return to Factory New specs" to correct the dreaded "Hillbilly Gunsmithing." I would guess that might cost around $200, with a new barrel.

Just make sure to tell them, "Call with repair estimate before proceeding" so you do not end up with too high a repair bill. Unless the gun is completely butchered, you could end up with a like-new Glock for $200-300 or so - not a bad deal.
 
Interesting side note. My 17-round magazine won't drop clear from the weapon when it's loaded with more than 5 rounds. This is probably the "mag release" issue I mentioned earlier that my friend told me about before I purchased the pistol. The release works fine with the 10-round magazine at all times but the old 17-rounder seems to minutely flex under the tension of the spring inside which wedges it into the weapon. Is this still an issue with the newer 17-round magazines?

Thanks for all your information,
Mark(psycho)Phipps( HAHAHA! )
 
The older hi-caps were actually designed to stick in the gun if there were more than just a couple of rounds loaded. The idea was to prevent you from dropping a mag that still had a significant amount of ammo in it.

People didn't like it so the newer magazines will drop free even when loaded.

Like the rest of the folks, I'm a bit skeptical about the barrel being shot out, but I'm pretty sure that the mag release is working exactly as it's supposed to.

Ok, a quick test for the barrel. This isn't recommended for normal cleaning, but since you're sure the barrel is toast, try this. Take a small screwdriver and try to scratch the inside of the barrel. (You're going to replace it anyway, right?) If you can easily scratch it, it's badly lead fouled and should shoot fine when you clean it. I mean REALLY clean it. A few strokes with a nylon brush (or even a bronze brush) isn't going to do squat to remove barrel leading. If you can't scratch it, then it's clean but someone's abused it very badly and it needs a trip back to the factory for some TLC.

BTW, on the off chance that it is badly lead fouled, I wouldn't shoot it anymore until you get this figured out.
 
Good call on the not shooting it, JohnKSa. I wasn't the one to shoot it last time as I got stuck working over the weekend.

And...crap. It scratches. Those lazy GITS! :fire:

Guess what I'll be scrubbing the living heck out of tomorrow after school? :rolleyes:
Mark(psycho)Phipps( HAHAHA! )
 
Mark, don't know if you have access locally to buying a Lewis Lead Removing kit, but that's probably what you need. John was "right one" with his advice about scratching the barrel...kind of like the guy who told you that simply looking through the barrel probably wouldn't reveal lead build-up. ;)

Just a thought...if you can't find the Lewis kit, you can use pieces of those bronze pot-scrubbing pads, wrapped around your bore brush, and saturated with good solvent. Don't worry about ruining the barrel. There's no pliable material that you could wrap your brush with that would ruin that Tenifer barrel!
 
Friend, you got a GREAT deal. As others have said, if cleaning the barrel doesn't help then send it to Glock and they'll fix anything that needs fixing free of charge. They have GREAT customer service.

I bought a brand new G17 a couple of weeks ago ad I STILL haven't had the chance to go shoot it. :rolleyes:
 
So after scrubbing, CR-10, scrubbing, Hoppe's No. 9 powder solvent, and scrubbing (did I mention scrubbing?) the barrel is looking much better, if probably not perfect yet. I can clearly see the polygonal rifling all the way through and follow each individual groove all the way from one end of the barrel to the other when I look down the bore. Not too shabby for 1 1/2 hours with the Bore Snake.

I'm taking a break now because the CR-10, the solvent and the occasional hit with the bristles of my Bore Snake are making my fingertips numb...
Mark(psycho)Phipps( HAHAHA! )
 
I'm of the opinion that, for just about every purpose I can imagine, a good, stiff rod beats the crap out of a limp snake.
 
Yeah, well. Be nice if I had a nice, stiff rod to play with, eh? ;) I believe that my status as a student with minimal cash has been previously discussed here. My friend has all the good, non-post shooting maintenance cleaning kit.

Mark(psycho)Phipps( HAHAHA! )
 
Just called Glock and they say I have a first-year pistol. Seems some of the boys who work there really like having the older guns so there is a fair-to-middlin' chance that they'll be sending me a new firerarm off the production line as a 'trade'. Anywho, they'll send it back updated to current specs and parts and shooting straight at the very least, so I can't complain.

Yeah, the guy I talked to at Glock was jealous about the price I paid, too... :evil:
Mark(psycho)Phipps( HAHAHA! )
 
Glock has had my pistol the last week or so. Any info on how long I can expect my wait to be?

Thanks,
Mark(psycho)Phipps( HAHAHA! )
 
You could call them and ask. I'd figure on another 2-3 weeks at least. That's purely an off-the-top-of-my-head guess, not really based on any hard information.
 
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I agree with most others - its almost impossible to wear out the barrel on a glock (I've tried - on a G17!). I'm not sure what he did - is it the original barrel or a cheap aftermarket one? Clip release is no problem, and if you say everything looks and sounds good, you might have a deal on your hand. That is with a good barrel, new clip release, mabye a recoil rod while your at it if its had that many rounds through it! Needless to say if ever in doubt take it to a gunsmith for a check up, call it cheap insurance. You'll still come out ahead. -SMOKES-
 
Just got 'er back today. :)

Looks like my cleaning job degunked the barrel fine but there was apparently a lot of internal work to be done. They replaced the sights, firing pin assembly, EDP assembly (no clue what this is), extractor to the new one, trigger assembly, slide stop, slide lock, mag catch and refurbished my two mags. Up to factory specs and tested 'OK'. Yes, sir. No, sir. Three bags full, sir.

Now, I just know I'm going to have a blast with it next time I go to the range... :cool:
Mark(psycho)Phipps( HAHAHA! )
 
EDP is the Extractor Depressor Plunger. Since they say "assembly", that probably includes the spring as well.

My guess is that they upgraded any parts that have been improved and then replaced all the springs and any parts that they figured were subject to wear based on the amount of use they estimated the gun has seen.

I doubt anything really NEEDED replacement but they're pretty good about making a gun's trip to the factory worthwhile. ;)
 
Well, the new recoil spring setup is really nice when compared to the old skool one. No more shooting the spring acrossed the room just prior to a full-scale quadrant search with loud, four-letter commentary from me. ;)

They didn't lube the gun worth a damn, though. Dry as a bone besides the barrel...
Mark(psycho)Phipps( HAHAHA! )
 
so you got a working glock 17 for $100 and some elbow grease? awesome:neener:

They didn't lube the gun worth a damn, though. Dry as a bone besides the barrel...
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I bet it'll still shoot;)
 
$181.90, to be precise. $100 for the pistol, $61.90 for the UPS next-day saver shipping to the factory and I dropped an extra $20 check in the package for a new pistol box.

Got a cool new Glock keychain and the usual load of instruction books/pamphlets for "free",
Mark(psycho)Phipps( HAHAHA! )
 
What part of the barrel do you lube? :confused: When I clean mine I just put a drop down each rail on the slide and put it back together.
 
Thats beautiful I'm now on the look out for any junker glock I can find.
 
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