Glock 19 opinions?

[VoodooSan]

I had a G19 and had to sell it a long while back. I found it to be one of the best CCW guns but the finger grooves always bugged me just a little. Not enough to modify it or not want it. Never had an issue with it.

I have a gen 3 G30SF and I will never get rid of it. Currently my only Glock but I can easily see adding a G19 to my line up again.

 

[bdickens]

I had a Glock 19, it wasn't reliable. Much prefer my Beretta PX4 Storm, reliable, soft-shooting and actually has a safety.

Yours must have been the only one.

And the Glock design has three safeties.

 

[Warp]

I had a Glock 19, it wasn't reliable. Much prefer my Beretta PX4 Storm, reliable, soft-shooting and actually has a safety.

Glocks have 3 safeties.

 

[labhound]

Beretta PX4 Storm, reliable, soft-shooting and actually has a safety

I think Paul7 was referring to a thumb safety.

 

[scaatylobo]

+1 ,Glock 19

I own one as well as 5 others and they are there due to being tested and proven to be working [ as well as ANY gun will ] if needed.

I also am a FIRM believer in a BUG as ANY mechanical tool can fail.

If that 'tool' is a firearm,and it "fails" during a REAL moment [ not on the range ] then you need to have a plan.

My plan is refered to as a NY reload = TAKE OUT YOUR BUG !!.

 

[X-Rap]

I'm a big Glock fan but never consider any of mine on "safe". To some that is a plus others a minus.
I believe they are drop safe and and they will go off when you pull the trigger and to me that's what is important.
After owning and using pretty much every style and type popular handgun it is the one I like best. That is subject to change but I feel that as I evolve in my shooting and carrying I am making choices more on a personal basis than that of the herd.

 

[Teachu2]

You might also consider a G23. Add a $100 aftermarket conversion barrel, and it will shoot 9mm. Add another and it'll handle .357 Sig. Same size as a G19.

 

[Double Vision]

I was never a Glock fan - I didn't like the style at all.
Last night I shot a G19 for the first time during a training class, and shot pretty darn well with it. I will consider it for a future purchase.

 

[HKGuns]

Sure I have an opinion. Look harder as there are better options available in today's market. What works for others doesn't necessarily work for you......Go to the range and try some out and buy what works for you. If you are new to shooting a gLoCk would be the last pistol I would recommend.

 

[javjacob]

You can.

However, I will wager that I could take new/novice shooters (male or female) and give each about an hour of instruction on a pump gun and the Glock...and with defensive ammo in each, in a timed/stress induced course of fire, the pump would be more likely to malfunction and/or suffer more malfunctions per X number of rounds fired. I think it would take a long time training, more than the vast majority of people will ever do, to even reach the break-even point.

Talk to anybody who has shot shotguns enough, or been around enough people doing so for time/score, and ask them how often they see short stroking. I would put that rate up against a semi auto pistol, such as a Glock 19, that is using good mags and good quality defensive ammo, any day.

But that is just me and my experience.

I had a pump shotgun as my HD gun for a long time, and until last year it was still my main HD gun, slotted ahead of my Glocks. You can't argue with the terminal performance/effectiveness of a 12 gauge vs 9mm pistol.
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I have a Mossberg 500 12 gauge and I have never short stroked it, I have never had any problems whatsoever feeding, firing or ejecting ever. Like they say you just have to pump it with authority. I guess you could short stroke it if you work it like a sissy though. You shoot someone one time with a 12 gauge loaded with 00buck and its game over. follow up shots with 00buck shouldn't be necessary unless you miss or have multiple attackers. follow up shots aren't hard for any half way experienced shooter. get the 12 gauge out and go shoot some clays.

 

[RetiredUSNChief]

We took our kids outshooting this summer for the first time. My 13 year old daughter called dibs on my 870 as the first gun she wanted to shoot...and she handled it like a champ.

She didn't have any problems racking a round into the chamber the first time, beyond what I'd expect for a first time youngster of her size. And she demonstrated no problems at all on any of her subsequent rackings.

I would have to say that if a 13 year old girl can demonstrate the ability to properly rack an 870, then an adult should have no problems at all.

That said, there are no "foolproof" weapons out there. There are only differences which can be gauged against each other on a relative scale. Yes, there are some which are inherently easier to use than others for a variety of reasons. But even to, you can't really take the "fool" out of the person no matter how "foolproof" something is.

Training and experience makes a difference...and ANY person who chooses ANY weapon for self-defense has no business not training on that weapons until they're proficient enough to operate it reliably. If you want to use a pump shotgun, then (as a bare minimum) get out on the range and shoot it until it's proper operation is second nature.

 

[RBid]

My suggestion: Go to your gun/outdoors store and look for 9mm ammo, both target and defensive. Then search for .40 s&w ammo, both target and defensive. My guess is that you will find almost no 9mm target, and no 9mm defensive whatsoever. I also predict you will find substantial amounts of .40 target, and adequate amounts of .40 defensive. This may weigh heavily in your consideration of a Glock 19 vs. 23.

My first (owned) Glock was a 23, purchased in January because of the ammunition situation. After a little shuffling, I currently have a 19 and 23, each Gen 4. I love them both.

 

[mtrmn]

To the folks that say they don't like the Glock due to lack of a manual safety: The Glock has the same safety as the gold standard S&W double action revolver-if you don't want it to go off, don't pull the trigger.

 

[Paladin7]

I went through the same mind wrenching fun a few years ago regarding selecting a defensive pistol for home and about and ended up with the G19...

Reasons for this choice...
1. Proven Reliability - the Glock 19 has proven itself over years of serious use to be a very reliable semi-auto, if cleaned and maintained properly

2. Reactive design - 3 internal safeties, no external safeties (not counting the trigger safety here). Just point and shoot which is perfect in a fight or flight scenario

3. Firepower - amount of ammunition in the gun and on my person - ability to go to a 32 round mag is a very nice option

4. Simplicity of design - I like simple - fewer parts = fewer points of failure

5. Availability of parts (and they are cheap which is always a plus) - Glocks have been around for a long time and there are plenty of parts out there and they are easy to get, esp. in a SHTF scenario

I think you would be hard pressed to find a better option, given these considerations...

 

[powder]

GTG, prefer 124 gr ammo..

 

[CountGlockulla]

I went through the same mind wrenching fun a few years ago regarding selecting a defensive pistol for home and about and ended up with the G19...

Reasons for this choice...
1. Proven Reliability - the Glock 19 has proven itself over years of serious use to be a very reliable semi-auto, if cleaned and maintained properly

2. Reactive design - 3 internal safeties, no external safeties (not counting the trigger safety here). Just point and shoot which is perfect in a fight or flight scenario

3. Firepower - amount of ammunition in the gun and on my person - ability to go to a 32 round mag is a very nice option

4. Simplicity of design - I like simple - fewer parts = fewer points of failure

5. Availability of parts (and they are cheap which is always a plus) - Glocks have been around for a long time and there are plenty of parts out there and they are easy to get, esp. in a SHTF scenario

I think you would be hard pressed to find a better option, given these considerations...

That should be a sticky

 

[buckhorn_cortez]

I have a Mossberg 500 12 gauge and I have never short stroked it, I have never had any problems whatsoever feeding, firing or ejecting ever.

I bought a pump shotgun in 1964 and used it for years for bird hunting and trap. I put thousands of rounds through it. On occasion, I short stroked it trying to get off a quick second shot.

I now have an FN SLP for HD - I never short stroke it. For trap, I use a Beretta O/U - I never short stroke that one either. I guess you just have to recognize your limitations...and then get equipment that works 100% for you personally.