peacebutready
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I say the 9c because it is available with an external safety. That means you can have the trigger lightened in the future if you wish.
Glock 19 vs M&P 9c
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ArchAngelCD
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You might be able to remedy that problem with a different holster.
greyghost01
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Glock, I still have a bad taste in my mouth for S&W I sold the 2 I had years ago and spend my money elsewhere, I know its been a few years and they supposedly changed but fool me once shame on you and I'm not of a forgiving nature especially when it comes to my guns, I hear they are producing half way decent stuff, But they have a dark side read Chuck Hawks, S&W dark side
Robbins290
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Archangel. What holster would you recommend? I have the crossbreed super tuk. I moved the clips up and down. Could not find a position that felt sturdy while drawning.
JTQ
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Does it have the big full slab of leather on the back, or does it have the "tactical cut" or whatever Crossbreed calls is where they take away some leather so you can actually get a grip on the gun?
To me, a "full firing grip" is a big deal. Have you ever noticed the size of the sweat shields on holsters made by "old school" holster makers such as Rosen, Alessi, Sparks, Kramer, Del Fatti? They are very small or non-existant. Even on their IWB holsters, Rosen has no sweat shield on most of their models.
It looks good, but a tad out of my price range. Is it really that much better?
The Glock spacing is a about perfect for my hand. The G19 lets me get my pinky onboard, the G26 is no longer than it needs to be to get two fingers on which makes it easy to bring my pinky under the mag. Also prefer the trigger reset on the Glocks. If I went M&P, Apex parts would be a requirement in my book.
ny32182
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The CZ P07 and the G19 are virtually EXACTLY the same size. The only real difference between them is the trigger type.
The M&P 9c is smaller than either.
Mostly it just depends on which size you prefer for what task.
The M&P 9c is smaller than either.
Mostly it just depends on which size you prefer for what task.
Deanimator
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Glock 19.
I carry one periodically. It shoots and carries well, and I don't think I've had a single failure to fire with it.
I got mine when they were a steal from Summit Gun Broker. Mine has a nifty VA Beach Sheriff's Dept. logo on the slide.
I carry one periodically. It shoots and carries well, and I don't think I've had a single failure to fire with it.
I got mine when they were a steal from Summit Gun Broker. Mine has a nifty VA Beach Sheriff's Dept. logo on the slide.
Deanimator
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I don't see the connection.
I've got a 3.5lb. Ghost connector in my Glock 19. I don't feel any less safe with it, than with my Browning Hi Power or my 3.5" M1911.
- Use a decent holster that covers the trigger.
- Keep your finger off of the trigger until you're squeezing it to fire.
Or follow rule #3 and keep your finger off the trigger.
Once you have your finger on the trigger, and the safety off, that lighter trigger is, if anything, going to be less safe.
And of course relying on a manual safety is rather unsafe.
Robbins290
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The super tuk has the full piece of leather. I thought about cutting it my self and make the "combat cut"
edmo01
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GLOCK 19...
Edmo
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I think the g26, 9c, 19, and then 17/full sized 9 are all rather nice progressions from one to the next. I'd be glad to buy any of the group and not feel bad with the choice. I went with the 9c because it fit my hands well, shot well, and was well priced. If I wanted a smaller gun I would have been happy with the g26 and if I wanted a larger gun I would have been happy with the g19. None of them are bad and all are slightly different. Pick the one that slightly fits your uses better.
danez71
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Regarding posts 36 and 37, it is frequently said that a heavier trigger, that's commonly found on D/A, is the safety rather than a thumb safety.
peacebutready
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The Hi Power and 1911 have external safeties, which make me feel safer in addition to keeping my finger off the trigger. Plus, I'm used to the manual of arms with the external safety/single action.
Not relying on a manual safety, rather it's in addition to keeping my finger off the trigger.
Yes. That's what I would prefer on a striker fire pistol without an external safety. But I would prefer to have a striker fire pistol with an external safety so the trigger can be lighter, whether the trigger is lighter from the factory or by mods.
peacebutready
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I'm surprised Glock doesn't offer an external safety as an option.
Lj1941
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M&p 9c
The newer M&Ps have a much improved trigger reset. An Apex kit may not be necessary. The M&Ps have a much better feel in my hand than any Glock. My advice is handle both and then make your decision. If possible fire one of each. What works for me mat not work for you. Some people have suggested Sig. I have found most Sigs out of my price range.
The newer M&Ps have a much improved trigger reset. An Apex kit may not be necessary. The M&Ps have a much better feel in my hand than any Glock. My advice is handle both and then make your decision. If possible fire one of each. What works for me mat not work for you. Some people have suggested Sig. I have found most Sigs out of my price range.
BudgetBucks1
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I work in Law Enforcement and carry the M & P 40 fullsize at work(I have never shot the compact version). I also personally have carried the Glock 19 off duty for over a decade. I think both are great firearms but shooting the highest quality LE ammo at work I have seen multiple jams with the M & P. I practice with my G19 off duty with the cheapest ammo that I can find and have never witnessed a jam or failure. For that reason alone I would choose the Glock. However, I have also found that when I let my coworkers shoot my Glock 19 they shoot more accurately(I do also) and they like the way it shoots better; enough so that multiple coworkers have made a G19 purchase after shooting mine. Now, that being said, if this thread was about G19 vs the M & P shield I might would go with the Shield because of how much better it carries because it is thinner.
Another G19 vote. Nothing "wrong" with the M&P line, but I've always liked the self-smithing and low cost of parts for Glocks. Between the two models, I particularly like the capacity of the Glock and give a slight nod to it's trigger. If I needed smaller, I'd go G26 with the option of a longer mag.
But in the end, it's Ford/Chevy.
Now back to the nerfbat fight.
But in the end, it's Ford/Chevy.
Now back to the nerfbat fight.
wrdwrght
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Glock 19.
Had an M&P40c. Nice in the hand but the trigger was ill-defined, and I won't replace triggers in firearms I might carry...
Had an M&P40c. Nice in the hand but the trigger was ill-defined, and I won't replace triggers in firearms I might carry...
So which one is the Chevy? Ha ha ha! I'll get that one to match my Monte Carlo SS. I don't know how this debate started but it does need to end. So I'll do more homework on my end and let whoever is interested know what I got. Thank you everyone for your information and opinions.
I own a G19 and a G26, the wife owns a M&P 9c. We've both shot them all extensively. I prefer the G26, she the 9c. She actually shoots the G26 better (both speed and accuracy) but is far more comfortable with the rounded 9c grip.
Both of us have moved to Shield 9mms as our primary carry guns.
Both of us have moved to Shield 9mms as our primary carry guns.
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