glock extractor/ejector

[Fat Boy]

I am trying to refurbish a 3rd Gen Glock 21. To date I have replaced the guide rod and spring with a steel unit, and have started on replacing additional springs. I have also added a recoil buffer.

Shooting the gun yesterday I was getting hit in the face with the ejected casing about every third round fired as the case ejected. I was developing a serious flinch issue so I put the gun aside for further evaluation/work....

Because of this errant case throw issue I am thinking to replace the extractor and my question is whether or not the ejector needs to be replaced as part of this step...also, what other things might I try to correct this issue?

Obviously I am new to Glock's, and apologize for a newby question, but I appreciate your help!

 

[Runningman]

also, what other things might I try to correct this issue?

Did it do this before you added aftermarket recoil spring set up and buffer? Both these things listed will effect ejection pattern. I would buy a new stock Glock recoil spring dump the aftermarket buffer and give it a try.

 

[Fat Boy]

Runningman, it did not exhibit these problems prior to the addition of the items mentioned. I still have the original guide rod/spring: I will try your recommendation. I guess I was trying to "improve" the function of the gun- I had no idea changing/adding these things would cause issues. Thanks!

 

[rcmodel]

But, Glock "Perfection" comes right from the box.

It would then seem logical that it is impossible to improve something that is already Prefect by adding aftermarket parts.

rc

 

[rino451]

Yank the buffer and see whether it still does it. I'd imagine that the buffer changes the way/magnitude/amount that the ejector contact the case to eject it.

 

[Riss]

Well. I was issued a Glock about 16 years ago. AND, besides eye and ear protection, a hat was and still is mandated as proper range attire. There have been some extractor upgrades over the years, not sure if yours falls into that category. BUT, the extractor change was NOT to keep the brass out of your face. It was to fix an extraction problem. Brass in the face, on top of the head, or on the brim of the hat when shooting a Glock is normal.

 

[Fat Boy]

Brass in the face, on top of the head, or on the brim of the hat when shooting a Glock is normal.

OK, now I am thinking of just trading the Glock for something that doesn't throw brass directly at me...maybe a revolver-

Seriously, and I understand that I am asking for a direct comment on a prior post, but how significant a problem is this with Glock?

 

[Riss]

Not really a problem. It is just what they do. Some are worse than others but they all do it to some degree. You can check your extractor. If it is an old one it may have been changed and putting a new one in may help.

 

[rcmodel]

But, you said:

it did not exhibit these problems prior to the addition of the items mentioned.

It seems then, that the aftermarket parts you put in it caused the problem!

Take them out, and put the factory parts back and it will not "exhibit these problems" again.

rc

 

[Riss]

I missed that part. A replaced recoil spring could be part of the issue, but I still would check the extractor. Does it have the pad on the outside for the loaded chamber indicator ?

 

[middy]

I've never had a case throw problem with my Glocks, but I keep them stock.

I don't understand why you're "refurbishing" the thing. You're new to Glocks so you decide to start replacing and adding parts? Doesn't make sense...

 

[Fat Boy]

I don't understand why you're "refurbishing" the thing. You're new to Glocks so you decide to start replacing and adding parts? Doesn't make sense...


This gun was purchased used- I have read about having springs replaced on older guns; in fact I read about some events at which representatives of the Glock company would be in attendance and provide the spring replacements. Since this was a used gun, I thought it couldn't hurt to try and do this. Accordingly, I bought the spring service pack (I think it was called) from MidwayUSA. As part of that, I bought a steel guide rod, which seemed to be a stronger part than the factory unit. This was the non-captive guide rod, which required a different spring. I have removed the recoil buffer, and will likely just put the original guide rod and spring back into the gun-

Thanks for the responses-

 

[BBBBill]

Replacing the spring may not be a bad idea. Your factory spring might be tired. Just use a factory weight spring. And only change one thing at a time. That way you know what caused the undesired change in performance.

 

[myg30]

"" Brass in the face, on top of the head, or on the brim of the hat when shooting a Glock is normal.""

I have a few glocks in several calibers and NEVER had brass in my face. If shooting in a stall at a range maybe a case bounced off the wall and went down my shirt,top of my hat. Maybe if you shooting gangsta style with the side ways gun maybe !
I would just remove the buffer and give it a whirl.Shouldnt be any trouble with the solid rod and spring if its same weight as the factory spring.

just me .02 cents worth.

 

[Runningman]

Brass in the face, on top of the head, or on the brim of the hat when shooting a Glock is normal.

Bought my 1st Glock 17 in 1986 my 2nd Glock a 19 in 1988. Can't recall ever been hit in the face with brass from either of them or any of the other glocks I have owned and shot. In my experience brass in the face is not normal for a glock.

 

[timetoreload]

I've been hit on the top of the head with brass from my 27 - to be fair though, it bounced off the lane divider to my right before it hit me. Other than that, I've never been hit with brass from any Glock I've fired.

 

[ljnowell]

My g21 has never thrown brass in my face.

 

[737Driver]

Never had a glock (17, 19 or 22) throw brass at me either, always right and rear.

 

[greyling22]

have you tried different ammo yet? a lighter or hotter load? I've had that change where my brass was being tossed. you could also modify the ejector. beat it longer or file it shorter. (never done it, but it seems logical, use your own judgement on whether it is a good idea or not)

I've never had my glock throw brass at me though. I would try the ammo change before you alter the gun. if you do screw it up you can always buy a new drop in housing for like 20 bucks.

or, following the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" philosophy, put the gun back exactly how you found it and the problem wasn't present.