Glock Gen4 crap out reports already coming in

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Yes it did, it needed a replaceable backstrap.........done right !

The Gen 4 ain't it.
 
That's to bad to hear that. I have had and shot many Gen 3 Glocks and absolutely love them. I currently only have my G26 and will never part with it. I use it for carry and range and it has been fantastic! No probs whatsoever. I agree Glock should left well enough alone. My .02.
 
glock could have simply reinforced the frame or whatever with their 40cals so they're more reliable with tac light's attached, rather than coming out with a less than reliable, half hazard design...i mean the backstraps don't even fit flush! (they look like an afterthought)
 
.i mean the backstraps don't even fit flush! (they look like an afterthought)
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Yup, I saw one last weekend at the gun show for the first time and i was disappointed. I agree it looked like a "oh crap, lets get in on the back strap market thing fast"...

Im holding final judgment until i shoot the new Gen 4 model 17 to feel the new recoil spring.

JOe
 
I was never a fan of all the "stuff" they were doing with Gen 4, so instead of waiting like I was going to I made the impulse buy of a Gen 3. Looks like I made a smart choice:)

I'm sure Glock'll get it worked out. It's the same thing Ruger does as well as pretty much every manufacturer on the planet. it happens. That's why i put my guns through the wringer for several hundred rounds before I feel that I could count on them to save my life.
 
Yawn.

So one guy on some internet forum somewhere shows a picture of the a Gen 4 Glock jam and suddenly they're all garbage. Internet wisdom, I guess.

I'm not in the market for a new Glock, love my G3 17, but I'll wait until they're in the hands of thousands before I write anything off.
 
agreed striker.... IIRC.... glocks have ALWAYS had problems with limp wristing...this is a well documented problem... why the surprise that the 4th gen shares in its ancestors problems? Next week one will deform some factory brass and people will be surprised and complain about it saying gen 3 is so much better... the next week there will be a gen 4 kaboom.... more complaints and comparisons to the previous gen... IMO.. same problems, different package.
 
Don't worry guys, I'm sure that after they blow a bunch of money, they will come out with "Glock Classic". Maybe they will even write it down the slide in big half inch letters like an SW 1911.
 
This thread is hilarious.
Glock people are hilarious.
Guns that dont work with tac lights attached. Hilarious.

Did I say hilarious?

But seriously I am sure the new glock is fine. Its just an overblown internet rumor. Glock has too much staked on their reputation of reliability to mess it up this bad.

Will Glock lose marketshare to M&P? Yes of course.
Will Glock somehow go away forever? Doubt it.
Will Glock suddenly start making BAD products? REALLY doubt it.

Take a breath.

You dont need to change your internet names from "Glockmeister, DerGlockenbachan, Glockula, or RockinGlockin" anytime soon.
 
Yawn.

So one guy on some internet forum somewhere shows a picture of the a Gen 4 Glock jam and suddenly they're all garbage. Internet wisdom, I guess.

I'm not in the market for a new Glock, love my G3 17, but I'll wait until they're in the hands of thousands before I write anything off.
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the response the guy got from glock does not indicate it's an isolated incident.
 
^Hmmm, I just read the entire thread and I don't see any copy attributed to have come from glock saying this is a large known problem. In fact, the person that experienced the malf isn't even the original poster on that forum, just two of his friends that may have been shooting incorrectly. I haven't been able to duplicate the Glock limp-wrist induced failure, neither was my 5' tall ex-girlfriend with her tiny hands. If Gen 4s are more susceptible to this problem, than that is bad, but I don't see anything here that proves that one way or another. He even says that several other Gen 4s were shot with zero problems.

Maybe Glock has a dud on its hands, I don't know. But this BS is how stupid rumors get started for all makes and models. I'll take first hand experiences into account when evaluating a firearm's quality. I don't care what Billy-Jack's second cousin's brother said happened when he was shooting in the bayou last weekend.

My gen 3 Glock 17 has over 10k trouble free rounds through it with only 1 jam, and that was when I shot one mag of steel cased ammo several years ago. Never shot that aluminum/steel cased **** through my gun again and I've never had any problems.
 
glock could have simply reinforced the frame or whatever with their 40cals so they're more reliable with tac light's attached
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There is nothing wrong with GEN 1/2/3 Glock's. It is a magazine problem. Glock was using 10 coil mag springs and has upgraded them to 11 coil since. Look for 22/23 mags with a "1" or "2" on the back bottom right. Those are what you want.
Q: Are there Issues Using Tactical Lights on Glock® Pistols?


A: Some Glock® .40 caliber pistols, models 22 and 23, exhibit feeding malfunctions, either nose down or nose up (stovepipe), when used with tactical lights. The problems tend to occur with individual guns, with some pistols becoming totally unreliable while other identical, even close in serial number sequence, guns have no problems. Most models 22 and 23 are reliable.


A sensitive gun may malfunction with any tactical light - the TLRs, the older M models, and even Glock®’s own brand. There is evidence that the problem sometimes develops with use, and may progress until the pistol is unreliable even with no light attached.


On the basis of testing by Streamlight, we believe the problem is magazine related. It appears that the rounds are unable to rise fast enough for proper cycling. We have observed proper feeding for the first few rounds, consistent failures at mid-magazine capacity, and a return to proper feeding of the last few cartridges in the magazine.


We have tried both stronger and weaker recoil springs, and compound-action recoil buffers, all without success. Sometimes new magazine springs, either new Glock® or Wolff, will cure the problem. In one case of a pistol which was totally reliable when new but progressed to malfunctioning on every magazine, even with no light installed, we found two solutions which restored reliability, but which might not be acceptable to some users. The first was using 10 round capacity Glock® magazines. The gun will not cycle reliably with 15 round mags with their steeply stacked columns but works flawlessly with 10 round mags. The second solution was a new magazine follower from Brownells®, their part number 069-000-006. When used in a 15 round magazine with a new spring, reliability was restored. However, the follower would not lock the slide open after the last round.


Ammunition is also a factor with any weapon. Some brands and weights may be totally reliable while others jam repeatedly. Make sure your gun is thoroughly tested with your duty ammo.


Brownells® is a registered trademark of Brownells®, Inc.
Glock® is a registered trademark of GLOCK Gesellschaft mbH.
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There is nothing wrong with GEN 1/2/3 Glock's. It is a magazine problem. Glock was using 10 coil mag springs and has upgraded them to 11 coil since. Look for 22/23 mags with a "1" or "2" on the back bottom right. Those are what you want.
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strreamlights research indicates that sometimes this works, and sometimes not. glock beefed up the frame dustcover on the gen 4's for a reason...

Sometimes new magazine springs, either new Glock® or Wolff, will cure the problem. In one case of a pistol which was totally reliable when new but progressed to malfunctioning on every magazine, even with no light installed, we found two solutions which restored reliability, but which might not be acceptable to some users.
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a gun is not a new model car that you can coast to the side of the road when the engine cuts out and call onstar.

Your Life Depends On It

BAD GLOCK....No Biscuit
 
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GEN 3 left. 4 right.
 
I am not a glock guy. I have only fired 1 one time. I have only held them in my hand several other times and I perfer an all metal gun. No plastic for me.

But Glock has a tremendous almost "religious" following. It is know for Reliability, No Frills, Simplicity and Affordability! Why in the hell would they change what is working so well. Are there serious idiots running 90% of the companies in the world?
 
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