Glock KABOOMS-or DANG IT ANYWAY!

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The recent Glock kaboom thread really disturbed me.I always ASSUMED that the kaboom candidates were the .40S&W's-period.Now every time i shoot my 21 somewhere in the back of my mind ill always be wondering if this is gonna be the round!
I wish id NEVER seen that thread or link!:banghead:
 
While it has happened with every non-9mm model, I would think the low operating pressure of .45 would give a great deal of margin over the .40. The 21 was built on the 20 platform, and is at least configured for a large, high pressure cartridge. The same can't be said for the 9mm platforms that Glock pushed .40 into.
 
i'm considering glock 21.

i want to know if your glock 21 has went KB on you.
i don't want to see "i heard" story, i want pictures, personal experience.
 
Handy,

It has also happened with 9mm. A search of TFL archives on my user name will show my experience with a G19.
 
This is a first for me.
I have heard very little bad about a GLock.
I used to have a 27, sold it because it was to thick to carry and now carry an MK9 in search of a PM9.
 
MOST of the ones I have looked into involved LEAD bullets and ALL of the ones I looked into involved RELOADED AMMUNITION.

A double charge of bullseye or other fast burning pistol powder will disassemble most any pistol.

Both are specific no-nos according to the instructions delivered with each new pistol. :uhoh:

The trouble I have with threads of this nature is that the guy never takes responsibility for reloading his ammo. He blames the gun. Kinda like blaming the gun for killing people. You know like the media does.
 
Both the 40 and the 9mm are alot higher pressure round than the 45. I have reloaded my 45 brass a bunch of times but then I don't have a glock either. Mark
 
I have or have had, models:

17, 19, 20, 21, 26, 27, 29, 33, 30, 34 and 36.

I've never experienced un-reloadable brass, nor any kabooms wheter using factory ammo, or my own reloads.

FWIW
 
TaxPhd,

It seems that you have directed me to that story 4 times in the past. So I reread it.

Without starting a semantics argument, you state that it must have been "bad brass", since it was of unknown origin and the weapon was fully in battery.

The case on any weapon can fail. Bolt action rifles have gas ports built in against this possibility.



The KaBoom term gets alot of use, but the definition should be narrower than it usually is. I have always understood it too mean a rather forcefull case head failure with no obvious cause.

Barrel leading is an obvious cause. So is weakened, oft reloaded brass, or double charges.

The reason KaBoom has its own term is because it has happened with fresh factory ammo and the caliber and models more affected are NOT in a random distribution.

There are probably alot of Kabooms reported that really shouldn't be counted (if there was a count), but it's hard to seperate truly bad ammo from factory spec loads.

Someone posted an LEO message from last weak where three G22s in one dept., all firing factory 155 gr. ammo, KaBoomed. No lead, no reloads, no 180gr. ammo. No obvious cause. That's compelling.
 
My 21c blew up in my hands a few years ago. Since then, I haven't felt that comfy w/ any Glock. Probably tho, if you stick w/ good factory ammo, from a good factory ;) , you should be fine ;)
 
The retired marine, SWAT team, Glock armorer gentleman who taught the CCW class I took years ago told us then (95) that the 21's barrels as they came from the factory did not fully support the round and he wouldn't have one unless they had a Bar-Sto barrel installed. FWIW. But he did swear by all other things Glock.

I've never really worried about the 30 or 21 as they came from the factory, but I did have a Bar-Sto installed in the 21, just cause.

I tend to prefer the 19, 17 or 26 in 9mm for plinking purposes.

Still awaiting my first KB in any of them.

Ho-Hum.

Adios
 
Come to think of it WonderBread, neither have I....But then again, Glocks are the only Kb stories I have heard...but I havent heard all that many.
 
MOST of the ones I have looked into involved LEAD bullets and ALL of the ones I looked into involved RELOADED AMMUNITION.
Probably two of the most oft-repeated Glock myths. There have been numerous well-documented G22/23 kabooms with factory ammo over the years--from the very beginning continuing through the present. There are usually several officer safety alerts a over the NLETS (National Law Enforcement Telecommunication System)--the most current from agency an in Tennessee that had three Glocks kaboom with FACTORY ammo sending one LEO to the hospital.

As to the lead bullets, if it is indeed the problem that the internet myth would have it to be, the Glock is very negligent--they absolutely fail to mention the use of lead bullets in the manual included with each and every Glock sold--no warnings, no precautions, no nothing. Evidently, Glock, Inc. does not see the problem with lead bullets the internet does!

The problem is with the Glock 22/23. The design of the disconnector on the Glocks allow them to fire with the slide slightly out of battery--this is a more significant problem with higher pressure cartridges. Other .40 S&W pistols, especially ones made of steel or designed from the ground up as .40's rather than merely being modified 9 mm's, do not suffer from this same problem.

The original poster is right in being concerned/aware of the potential of a kaboom with any Glock other than a 9x19. Probably the best thing anybody can do for a G22/23 who really wants to stick with that platform is to invest in a good quality after-market barrel (there are a whole lot available at a reasonable--in and of itself an indirect comment on the scope of the problem) and heavier recoil spring.
 
Someone posted an LEO message from last weak where three G22s in one dept., all firing factory 155 gr. ammo, KaBoomed. No lead, no reloads, no 180gr. ammo. No obvious cause. That's compelling.

Out of curiousity, do you know what kind of ammo it was?

Our local police distributor had a visit from an, um, federal employee last year to pick up a couple of cases of Golden Sabers. Apparently they'd had three incidents with Speers blowing up SIGs. (I'm assuming that these were case failures and not kB's.)
 
it's in google

marklbucla, just look in google, key glock kb. i think you'll find some articles and pictures.

i believe this is glock 21
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Tamara,

I think Federal. It was in a long thread a weak or two ago.
 
Tamara -

Federal 155-grain Hi-Shok JHP

Not reloaded

Not lead

Not cheap practice ammo--it could easily get an LEO killed on the street
 
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