Glock "safety" vs. other striker-fired pistols...

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I am a glocker but I will say in my opinion the factory trigger is to light. Thats why I put a 8Lb trigger spring in it before I ever fired it, and now it perfect for me.
 
Stick w/ what works best for you! Me, I own 2 striker fired guns & love them both...my Glock 19 & my HK P7M8 :cool: I just figure - why does everyone have to like what I like???? :scrutiny:
 
Putting a safety on the trigger, is like putting the brake petal on the gas petal.

Glocks are perfectly safe except for morons who finger the trigger when the finger should NOT be on the trigger. This happens mainly to folks who don't shoot much, but have to tote a weapon daily, such as some LEOs.

Be as it may . . . I feel MUCH safer toting my cocked and locked Kimber 1911-style auto than with my Glock 23.

Both are fine handguns though.
 
Find the video of the infamous DEA agent who accidently shot himself while reholstering in front of a classroom of kids for a great example.
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Unless I'm mistaken, his finger did it...

I think the XD system with the grip safety is a big leap forward.
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Yes tell that to JMB.
 
How would you know if that little trigger thing even does anything? I mean seriously, how would you know if it's broken? Maybe it's not even connected to anything. There really isn't anyway to know if it even works.

Putting a safety on a trigger is an engineering oxymoron.

I have to pull the trigger to take the safety off, but I can't pull the trigger because the safety is on, but I have to pull the trigger to take the safety off, but I can't pull the trigger because the safety is on, but I have to pull the trigger to take the safety off, but I can't pull the trigger because the safety is on, but I have to pull the trigger to take the safety off, but I can't pull the trigger because the safety is on, but I have to pull the trigger to take the safety off, but I can't pull the trigger because the safety is on, but I have to pull the trigger to take the safety off, but I can't pull the trigger because the safety is on, ....... :neener:
 
All the "little trigger thing" does is block the rearward movement of the trigger unless it's depressed (it pivots around a blind pin in the trigger itself); no rearward trigger movement means the pistol can't be fully cocked, and if the pistol isn't fully cocked, the pistol can't fire.
 
"How would you know if that little trigger thing even does anything? I mean seriously, how would you know if it's broken? Maybe it's not even connected to anything. There really isn't anyway to know if it even works."

Simple, with the pistol unloaded, pinch the sides of the trigger and pull it to the real. If it moves back and the pistol dry fires then your safety device is faulty. If not your good to go.

This procedure is explained in more detail in the Glock owners manual inculed with the pistol.
 
Hey Glocks do have a thumb activated safety. Except Glock builds it into the holster Now why does Glock go to the trouble of building a contraption like that?? Hmmmm.......
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Because you don't want anything else bulging out on your holster. Glocks are meant to be smooth and streamlined in design; when holding it. No other obstructions are needed.
 
When you are to STUPID to keep your freaking finger out of the trigger guard you should not carry a Glock or any other firearm IMHO. ND's are operator errors period.
 
When you are to STUPID to keep your freaking finger out of the trigger guard you should not carry a Glock or any other firearm IMHO. ND's are operator errors period.
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This is true, however in today's society one must be protected from themselves :banghead: :banghead:
 
I think the Glock pistol is "safe" enough as is in regard to the trigger and manual "safeties". I find the prong sticking out of the trigger to be a stupid design also. I don not like Glocks "DAO"(if that's what you can call it) and all other pistols that have it as well because it implements the disadvantages of both the SA and DA without the advantages of either. I have no use for such a design. I would prefer a true DAO in a pistol like Glock's.

The reported "ADs" were negligent in nature and I don't think that "safeties" are the answer to the improper handling of arms. It's like the ridiculous key-locks that some manufacturers are integrating into some of their products now.
 
Personally, I think a lot of people get too dependent on manual external safeties. I was always told that a gun is loaded no matter what. And that just like any other mechanical device, the manual safety on any weapon can fail. The trick is to always treat it as if it were loaded, and as if it had no safeties installed at all. Just my 2 cents.
 
To me, no external safety is like not wearing a seatbelt because you don't think you'll ever crash the car...that it'd be operator error if you did.
 
When you are to STUPID to keep your freaking finger out of the trigger guard you should not carry a Glock or any other firearm IMHO. ND's are operator errors period.
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Yes, I agree that one should practice safe gun handling and keep the finger off the trigger until ready to shoot.

So why is there even a "safety" on the Glock trigger at all if keeping your finger off is the Glock's real safety? When the trigger's pulled, it's pulled. :confused:

(still not a Glock hater) :)
 
Dont pull the trigger and the gun wont fire, pull the trigger and the gun will fire.

Its simple its reliable, its quick to put into action.
It requires the operator use his head for more than a hat rack.

What more could you want?????
 
"To me, no external safety is like not wearing a seatbelt because you don't think you'll ever crash the car...that it'd be operator error if you did."


BS

I have total control of my glock when its on my hip. I, and only I, control what happens to my pistol. If something happens its my responsibily. not anyone else.

On the other hand, in a car, I cant control what the moron next to me is doing.
 
The passive safety systems found on a Glocks probably makes it one of the most “safe” pistols available. It requires no remembering to engage the safety. The only thing you need to remember is to keep your finger off the trigger until you want to shoot.

There isn’t a safety made that makes any gun safer when it’s not being safely handled. How many times do you read about someone getting “accidentally” shot where “I thought the safety was on” or “I didn’t know it was loaded” is the excuse you hear. The only completely safe gun is an unloaded gun and even then you need to: treat it as if it is loaded, finger off the trigger, keep pointed in a safe direction. You need to violate at least 2 of the safety rules to get yourself or someone else hurt.

It is pretty hard to get something caught inside the trigger guard and then apply enough force on top of that to get a 5lb pull trigger to go off. Leaving your finger on the trigger while reholstering certainly has set off double action revolvers and semi autos. Again it’s a handling issue.

There’s no way to make something idiot proof, idiots are too ingenious.
 
The real safety is "between your ears". I love Glocks and have been carrying them chambered for over a year without a problem. Any person can have a AD with any gun! Period. I practice good gun handling techniques daily. If you are scared to carry chambered you either need more training or another gun. I have no problems with the standard 5.5 pound trigger pull of my Glocks. Just my 2 cents worth.
 
Putting a safety on a trigger is an engineering oxymoron.
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It's a drop safety. When the gun is dropped from above, like the space shuttle orbit, the gun will/might smash to pieces when it hits the ground, but the trigger won't move. So it has values, just not the same thing as a manual/grip safety, or the HK squeeze-cocker, or even a simple hammer block...


ND's are operator errors period.
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Is this also an operator error?

http://www.thegunzone.com/mos/ad.html

If so, I guess I'm one of those seem possible to commit this kind of offence...:eek:
 
Just because something has extra gadgets to make it more difficult to do something stupid is no excuse to go ahead and do that stupid thing. I've been living with Glocks for 14 years and never once had a ND or AD. You shouldn't let external safeties make you any less careful of a firearm. I treat all my guns the same, and I learned how to treat them right with the "unsafe" Glock. IMHO, if you can't be safe with a Glock, you have no business with any gun until you learn better gun handling.

Harsh, but that's how I feel. Gadgets are no subsitute for proper gun handling.
 
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