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External safety for Glock?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by hillbilly in MI, Mar 15, 2007.

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  1. hillbilly in MI

    hillbilly in MI Member

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    I have seen an aftermarket external safety available for Glock handguns. Does anyone have any experience with these?

    I really like the design and function of the Glocks but a manual safety doesn't seem like a bad idea for CCW. I'm not knocking Glocks and am looking to get a 19 for CCW. A manual safety would seem to fix the only real issue that some have with Glock pistols. If I can have both the reliability of a Glock with a manual safety too, it seems to be a good idea to me.

    Here is a link to the safety if you haven't seen them http://www.brownells.com/aspx/ns/store/productdetail.aspx?p=5532

    Thanks.
     
  2. Shipwreck

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    Man, U will be dawged for sure now. "Manual safety" and "Glock", if said in the same sentence, are words that will drive Glock fanatics into a super tizzy.

    I hope they don't beat U up too badly.

    Personally, if U like the Glock frame and gun, and want a manual safety to boot, I think U ought to be able to have it. But, the Glock-o-philes will be out in force - spouting to you about keeping your hand off the trigger and such. U just wait...

    If U had posted this on Glocktalk, U'd really have been in trouble. :neener:
     
  3. hillbilly in MI

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    I was expecting some of the Glock fans to give me a hard way to go. My hide's tough enough to take some of that. Just to clarify, I do plan to get a Glock either way. But if I can have both the safety features built in and a manual safety without compromising the reliability and durability that attracted me to them in the first place it seems like a good idea to me. I've never complained about having both airbags and seat belts in my car.

    Those who wish to make jokes - have at it. It won't bother me. Anyone with some experience with these safetys let me know.
     
  4. GunNut

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    Obviously you can do what you'd like with your gun, but you're just asking for trouble altering the gun like that.

    I'm trying to be objective regarding the Glock safety, but it's really hard:D

    Really there are so many guns out there with safeties already built in them, why not just find something that comes from the factory that way?

    If you want to tinker and change things around then buy a 1911.:neener: But leave the poor Glock how it was designed.
     
  5. flinch

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    Hello,

    I was looking at the possibility too. There were a couple of gun smiths I located through Google that will do it for $130. +/- . The shipping was only $3. +/-. By the time you buy the part and the jig and get your nerve up to cut into the plastic it seemed like the better deal. There is also a letter from Glock saying this modification did NOT void the warrenty. That should tell you something too.
     
  6. GunNut

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    And I think that would be the main reason I would not mess with the gun.

    Call Glock and ask them if they will warranty the gun with the safety added, then make your decision.

    Oh yeah, great choice on the Glock 19. I've recently picked up a second generation Glock 19 and am loving it.

    Steve
     
  7. 10-Ring

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    Glock will do what they need to to sell more units. The design is fine the way it is, but if they open up their market w/ an external safety option, who knows how many they'd sell :scrutiny:
     
  8. thebaldguy

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    I would purchase a Glock pistol if it had a manual safety. I like everything about Glocks except for the lack of a manual safety.
     
  9. outofbattery

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    I honestly think that after you carried it for any length of time,you'd realize that it isn't necessary.
     
  10. Richiec77

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    There is a shop in the San Antonio area that I heard adds a manual safety now to all their new Glocks since they have had a ton of questions about it. I'll dig up some more info on the shop and whatever info I can. They would probably be able to answer any other Questions you have regarding their kit and how well the safety functions on their pieces.

    From the one I have seen, it looks like it was that safety kit or something very similar added to it. Worked pretty good from the limited experience I had with it.
     
  11. RyanM

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    The safety I've seen looked pretty foolproof (as long as you don't try to install it yourself), durable, and reliable. Probably not necessary, but if it makes you more likely to carry the gun, go for it.
     
  12. glocktoberfest

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    I was thinking the same thing .
     
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    I never recommend that people DISABLE existing safeties, especially on carry guns, (pinning thumb safeties, removing Glock trigger safeties) because if you ever used one, you would have a hard time convincing a jury and the DA that you weren't looking for an opportunity to kill someone.

    BUT, this doesn't apply to ADDing safeties. There are good reasons to carry a Glock. There are good reasons to like safeties. There are many people who are used to 1911 style safeties. Massad Ayoob endorses this one, and he's a goy with some real-world Glock experience. If I went back to a Glock, (I'm still thinking about getting one for my wife,) I would look hard at installing one of these:

    http://www.brownells.com/aspx/ns/store/productdetail.aspx?p=5532
     
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    I always thought Glocks had a manually activated external safety. It's right there on the trigger. :confused:
     
  15. oceansands

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    I would purchase a Glock pistol if it had a manual safety. I like everything about Glocks except for the lack of a manual safety



    UHHHHHHH revolvers don't have a manual safety. Would you carry one of them?


    THE ONLY TRUE SAFETY ON ANY GUN, IS THE ONE BETWEEN YOUR EARS! IF YOU DON'T USE THAT SAFETY NO SAFETY WILL EVER MATTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  16. Mainsail

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    I don’t see the point of adding an external safety to a Glock. My Sig P239 doesn’t have one, my Taurus 85 doesn’t have one, and my Alaskan doesn’t have one.

    I would be afraid of, during a high stress situation, pulling the trigger and having nothing happen. Then if I had time to realize my mistake and try to thumb the safety down, finding it’s all bound up because I am still putting pressure on the trigger. I’ve read a few too many incident reports where police officers had been shot trying to fire their weapon with the safety on.

    The only time my Sig comes out of the holster is to unload it or fire it. When I need to do the latter, I want that to happen with as little delay as possible. Since it’s never out of the holster in a loaded condition, it’s as safe - or safer - than a handgun with an external mechanical safety.
     
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    Don't the aussie police use a glock special made at the factory to have an external saftey.
     
  19. 000Buck

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    You idiotic boob!! Just kidding. It would be cool if Glock had an option of an external safety, but like others said it is like a revolver and not many people have a problem carrying them around. Maybe look at a NY trigger to make it more revolver like with the heavy trigger pull?

    One warning is Glocks are super dependable and reliable from the factory, but once you start messing around with stuff, no matter how simple, that all goes out the window. For a carry gun, dont mess with it!
     
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    They're not my personal cup of tea, but I did help a friend install one on a G30. The install went well, just took time and it has worked great for him. I wish the safety lever itself was deburred just a bit more, but that's just me getting picky.

    The design of it is really quite simple, there's very little to it (which means little to go wrong) and installing it doesn't open things up to more dirt either. If it makes you feel that much better, go for it.

    The Saf-T-Block that Vern mentioned also works well.

    There, now you have at least one response from someone who's had experience.:)
     
  21. okcorral

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    I too would purchase a Glock if there was another form of safety. For concealed carry the trigger can catch on a thread and the light trigger could be pulled. LEO's can safely carry them because of proper holstering which can't be done as easily when trying to conceal it.

    I like the XD because of the grip safey for this reason. It's still a point and shoot gun but the extra safety might prevent an accident when holstering or de-holstering.
     
  22. oceansands

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    I too would purchase a Glock if there was another form of safety. For concealed carry the trigger can catch on a thread and the light trigger could be pulled. LEO's can safely carry them because of proper holstering which can't be done as easily when trying to conceal it.

    I like the XD because of the grip safey for this reason. It's still a point and shoot gun but the extra safety might prevent an accident when holstering or de-holstering.

    OK, Sorry but I'm going to have to shoot some holes in your statement.
    1. What thread is going to slide into the trigger guard and pull the trigger. My guess is, if my sweet shirt gets caught up in my gun when re-holstering, it is going to cause a bind so I can't push it in far enough to even reach the trigger.
    2. Proper holstering should be something WE ALL DO!!!! Not just cops, thats is an irresponsible thing to say. That shows that you don't take care when handling a fire arm, but you rely on the safety.
    3.I have been carring a GLOCK safely everyday for over a year, and many people have been carrying them for many many years.
    4. As far as the XD is concerned...... you still have a grip on the grip safety when holstering, thus when your magical thread grasps the trigger you're still going to have an ND!
    5. If your so worried about a light trigger then you can always get an 8# connector. If you don't know they make an 8# connector, then you haven't done enough home work on GLOCK to make an educated decision on GLOCK therefore you make a wide and sweeping comments like your above post!!!
     
  23. Auto-revolver

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    external glock safety

    Alex Hamilton of Ten Ring Precision which is located in San Antonio, Texas will do a very fine job of installing the external safety; he writes a column for one of the handgun magazines. He put this type of safety on a Glock I had, and it and the Glock functioned fine.
     
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    If Glock states it's OK to do this then I would consider doing it. Does anyone have a link to this? For conceal carry for a 1911 type person it might work. I wonder if it will be legal for GSSF?
     
  25. okcorral

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    -- oceansands --

    What I mean by proper holstering is that it's much easier to holster a firearm OWB non-concealed like you would find on any police officer.

    These tiny IWB's I see everywhere just make me nervous about trying to squeeze something down my pants without another safety to prevent AD. The XD grip safety is not fool proof safety but it is one extra form of protection. The XD sub-compact is also slightly smaller than the compact glocks as well including the 26 and 27.

    It's really personal preference and the extra safety on the XD makes me feel better carrying it that I do a glock.

    Beretta, Glock, Sig, XD, S&W, H&K, and the likes are all excellent firearms and it simply boils down to the one you're most comfortable with.
     
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