Glock w/Cominolli safety

[woodcutter]

Considering a Glock, finally. Handled a 21 SF and a 30 SF over the weekend, and was extremely surprised at how well they fit my hand. The 21 was a little better balanced to me , but both felt fantastic to my hand. Always liked their reputation, just thought they looked like something my hand would hate.
Mainly I'd want it for HD, perhaps occasional carry (although I'd probably look at the 19 or 23 for that), and (.45) for hiking, camping etc.
Part of my concern with Glock was that I always thought the ergonomics looked like a 2x4 at an odd angle, but I was wrong about that when I actually handled a few - felt like they were literally made for my hand. The other issue is no thumb safety. I'm not real worried about my own ability to keep my finger off the trigger - I'd like the thumb safety as a hedge against third-party AD's, or conceivably a shirt-tail incident, etc. Yes, I know I need proper training, practice, and the Glock safety system is proven, but I'd still like the thumb safety, okay? When you have kids, you tend to think that way I guess (well, I do anyway). I know I could just pick another brand that already has the thumb safety, but the Glock fit me so well, and of course the reputation for reliability and ruggedness, that I just want a Glock with that one extra feature.
So, does anyone have actual experience with the Cominolli thumb safety? Can you give it a review - pros, cons, etc? From what I've read so far, most Glock cognoscenti are purists about not adding it, but nobody seems to have anything bad to say about the safety itself - functionality, quality, etc. - which is the kind of feedback I'm looking for.
Thanks!

 

[Boris bush]

Just me, and no flames intended.

A "manual safety" on a Glock is like puttinga DAO half cocked striker system in a 1911 or a cross bolt safety on a revolver or a grip safety on a Ruger blackhawk.

Even if a gun has 100 manual safeties and there is no ammo in the house, if a kid gets ahold of one of your guns then something is wrong.

I held a Glock with one of them thingies on it. Wasnt impressed. Just about any kid will play with levers on a gun. It felt like a highpoint. Didnt change the trigger any.

If you think it will make the gun more child safe then by all means get it. I would also look at preventing whatever setup shortcommings you have in safely keeping the kids from getting at your guns before you add the safety though. Dont let 3rd parties hold or handle it. Its not the newest latest greatest smart phone. Its a tool with a specific purpose. If buddies want to manhandle a Glock refer them to the nearest funstore.

Get the Glock and get the safety and let us know how YOU like it. It sure wont hurt anyone.........

 

[valorius]

The safeties seem to work fine based on everything i've read about them online. Safeties stop god only knows how many ND's every year.

I applaud you for adding a safety to your Glock.

 

[rcmodel]

So, does anyone have actual experience with the Cominolli thumb safety?

Yes. I put one on my Model 23 about 5 years ago.

I like it a lot.
I'm an old died in the wool 1911 guy, and often just stuff one down the back of my pants Mexican carry without a holster.
The Glock 23 fits in my hip pocket just fine, but is not safe to carry loaded without trigger coverage by a holster.
The Glock Thumb safety makes that possible too.

I do think if I had to do it over again I would look hard at the Siderlock kit.
It performs the same function but doesn't require any mod to the frame for the thumb safety slot. You can always take it out and put the stock trigger parts back in.

It was not yet available when I bought the Cominolli kit.

http://www.topglock.com/item/68035_Siderlock_Parts_Siderlock_Glock_User_Inst.aspx

http://www.siderlock.com/
rc

 

[jonboynumba1]

don't know about the safety but do own a 21sf....agree it is a good feeling gun....the old 21 I had was "almost right" but still to bulky even for my big mitts....the SF is "just right" FWIW my 21SF shoots like a house on fire to! Whatever you do...don't get the one with the picatiny rail....get the GLOCK railed version....you can use any 21 mags without the stupid ambo safety and the non-GLOCK rail limits your holster choices...those warts aside I still love mine.

 

[REAPER4206969]

I do not abide.

 

[Balrog]

Glock, I am told, has an external safety that it puts on some pistols sold to organizations that specify they want an external safety.

I have no problem with the Glock design as is, but think it would be nice for them to offer external safety models as well for people who are more comfortable with an external safety.

 

[woodcutter]

Boris, no disagreement really, just my engineer thinking that one of the safeties should not be trigger de-activated (for me, anyway - YMMV). I understand the logic, I would just prefer Glock made a thumb safety option - I believe Springfield does this with XD's - it's just an option as opposed to not having the option. If it's a third party add-on, then fine, but I do wish GLock would just make it available. Also on my wish list would be a .45 sized between the 21 and the 30.

 

[woodcutter]

jonboy, I had a similar experience. My hands are medium to large, and the SF just nestled right in. I was almost stunned - I had sort of convinced myself (without actually handling one, mind you) that Glock ergonomics just flat looked "wrong" - not that I think it's an exceptionally ugly gun, I sort of appreciate the appearance actually. Picked up the SF's and it was like coming home. Wierd, but that's how much I liked them. Anyway, I also like the 1911 about as much, just very different. Like Porsche vs Ferrari or something.
Thanks for the tip on the Glock rail - I was wondering about that as well. Any holster preference?

 

[FIVETWOSEVEN]

I do not abide.

Whys that Reaper?

 

[481]

While not something that I would add to any of my Glocks, the one experience that I have had with the Cominolli device (my friend's Glock 17) was a 'positive' one in that it did function properly and as advertised.

I s'pose that if I were looking for an "additional" safety for any of my Glocks, I might consider it. I do find the permanent alteration to the pistol frame a little "off-putting", though. However, if a gun's owner is cool with a permanent alteration, I can see no problem with the addition of what is really just another after-market accessory to the gun.

 

[woodcutter]

I don't know that I would do it for every Glock I had - I'd like more than one after all - but just thinking, with all the after market stuff available for them it's not like they're not already frequently modified. Also, I read where they made special 17's with a factory thumb safety (forgot which military/LE it was - European I'm sure, but apparently they have done it before). Would I own a Glock without the thumb safety? Sure. I'd still like to have it if available. Just wondering if you could special order one from Glock, or if it would have to be a big contract type thing like for an agency or military.
Anyway, thanks for the feedback, much appreciated.

 

[valorius]

I would definitely get a safety on my Glock, even if it made no safety difference at all in handling it.....it would TOTALLY throw off anyone that tried to shoot you with your own gun.

Everyone knows that Glocks dont have safties. But mine would...

 

[Boris bush]

I would definitely get a safety on my Glock, even if it made no safety difference at all in handling it.....it would TOTALLY throw off anyone that tried to shoot you with your own gun.

Everyone knows that Glocks dont have safties. But mine would...

The ONLY problem I would have with a 'safety' on a Glock is the fact I have been shooting Glocks forever and a day the way they come. First time I would need it I know I would forget about the 'safety'. I would need about 20 or so years of shooting a 'safety' equiped Glock to get used to it lol.....

 

[rcmodel]

Just because it is there doesn't mean you have to use it.
Leave it off and you won't forget it is on.

Like I said earlier, I use mine when I want to stuff in my hip pocket and go!

The rest of the time, it stays in it's holster with the safety off.

But after 50 years of 1911's, my thumb is fanning away on the side of a Glock looking for a safety that wasn't there anyway.
Now, it is!

rc

 

[REAPER4206969]

Whys that Reaper?

There is no logical reason for one. If for some strange reason you want a manual safety on a striker fired pistol, buy an M&P/XD/SR9. Don't butcher a Glock.

 

[piece of meat]

the total lack of any safety is the only reason i havent got a glock yet

 

[ForumSurfer]

If it makes you feel better, put it on there. You bought it with your hard earned cash so do with it as you see fit!

Once I became well enough acquainted, confident and accurate with my new 19…I started carrying it from time to time. Beforehand, I had only carried 1911’s (and a revolver briefly). I’m constantly sweeping the frame on my glock where a thumb safety should be (according to my muscle memory). I could see where you would want one. I pay extra, extra, extra careful attention whenever I’m forced to un-holster and re-holster. I wish I could, but I simply don’t have the luxury of leaving home all holstered up and staying that way until I return home every day. I’ve considered purchasing a saf-t block as I feel I’d be happy with it as opposed to modifications that don’t necessarily improve function.

That being said…I don’t see myself adding a safety on mine. If I feel I need one that bad, I’ll ditch the glock and buy a beretta px4 compact when they are released. Either that, or just buy one of those fn’s I’ve been drooling over in 9mm.

 

[ProCarryNAustin]

I would not have one on my Glocks for the same reasons I never put one on my S&W Model 27 revolver.

I believe folks have the right to do whatever they want with their pistols. Having said that, I strongly feel than any modification that complicates the mechanism I may have to rely on to save my bacon, I don't need. The day I can't give the proper respect to trigger discipline when handling/holstering/etc, I will post all of my guns for sale. I will do this out of respect for the safety of those around me as no safety mechanism of any kind will cure carelessness.

 

[KBintheSLC]

the total lack of any safety is the only reason i havent got a glock yet

Actually, Glocks have 3 safeties built in to the firing mechanism. The problems arise from folks who have not trained themselves to keep their finger off the trigger. But hey, to each their own. If you feel better installing a manual safety on your Glock, go for it. Just make sure you test it thoroughly for reliability after you install it. Otherwise, there are many other good options that already have one built in at birth.

 

[Enachos]

It's not really hard to train yourself to keep your finger out of the trigger. Everytime I unholster my glock, the first thing that clicks into my head is "finger off trigger." Simple as that.

IMO, if you feel you absolutely need a thumb safety I would reccomend another pistol or adding the thumb safety to the glock (like you said)... but I feel that the lack of a thumb safety is what makes the glock pistol so special. It removes an extra step you would need to take if you were ever in a SD situation.

I'm not saying a Glock isn't for you but if safety is a major concern then there are also other choices. Needless to say though, I carry a G27 all day every day with a round in the chamber and a fully loaded mag and never have I felt uneasy since I started carrying. Thousands of people will tell you that! If you decide to get a safety installed, however, do let us know how it works out!

I will agree with feeling uneasy about leaving a glock around a house with kids though. If I were a parent I probably wouldn't hesitate to install an external safety on a Glock if it were to be my nightstand gun.

 

[481]

I don't know that I would do it for every Glock I had - I'd like more than one after all - but just thinking, with all the after market stuff available for them it's not like they're not already frequently modified. Also, I read where they made special 17's with a factory thumb safety (forgot which military/LE it was - European I'm sure, but apparently they have done it before). Would I own a Glock without the thumb safety? Sure. I'd still like to have it if available. Just wondering if you could special order one from Glock, or if it would have to be a big contract type thing like for an agency or military.
Anyway, thanks for the feedback, much appreciated.

Sure. I am a bit of a 'purist' when it comes to my guns regardless of their design and won't add aftermarket stuff to 'em, but if having one of Cominolli safety gizmos on your gun makes you feel good/better/safer then why not add it on?

Life is too short to not have all the "bells and whistles" you want on your gun. It is all about what makes you happiest!

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

I feel no need for such a device on my own Glock. If you get one, I recommend you train yourself to always use it. When you bring the gun up on target, release the safety; reengage it when you lower the gun. Do it until it becomes second nature, without your having to think about it. If you think, "I'll just use it when I think I need it," you are setting yourself up to forget which mode you left it in and may forget to disengage it in a real defense situation.

 

[230therapy]

No need for a thumb safety. Keep your finger off the trigger and all will be well with any gun.

If you absolutely require a thumb safety, then get an M&P or Hi-Power.

 

[Enachos]

+1 Lone Haranguer and 230therapy.

Like I already stated, there are many other guns with thumb safeties. But if you really like the ergonomics and overall design of the glock, then by all means do what you feel is neccesary!