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Gods speed to the victims & city of Boston.But I have to ask this

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by husker, Apr 15, 2013.

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  1. BlackNet

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    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/04/16/boston-marathon-explosions/2086853/

    Still it's a security failure regardless of how you slice it.
     
  2. zimmerstutzen

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    One nail removed from a victim and two with shiny round objects out of 130 some injured and it is ball bearing and nail bomb.

    We will only ever know what they want to feed us. The press will run wild with whatever a person who knows a person conjectures.
     
  3. zimmerstutzen

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    Anybody ever attend 4th of July at the Mall in DC. bigger crowd and far tighter security in a space that is open to traffic and wide open for several blocks in every direction.
     
  4. AethelstanAegen

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    But then again the DC mall isn't 26+ miles long. That said, I haven't been to the 4th celebrations there in several years because even with the security, it would be very easy for someone to slip in bombs of the size used in Boston. That and I just hate crowds, so I steer clear and watch the show from across the river.

    This type of attack is very hard to prevent without using methods people would complain about...and when the people complain about it, the methods would be scrapped under the political pressure.
     
  5. BlackNet

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    there are plenty of methods that are very effective that will not cause those outcry's, they are also not used, frequently overlooked and often ruled out in favor of more apparent methods that does little practical.
     
  6. AethelstanAegen

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    Such as?
     
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    Stock up now.

    This admistration won't waste a "crisis" like this and we all know the next thing they'll go after.:fire:
    Remember, they might not come for you first but eventually will come for you. Stand together for our 2nd Amendment Rights or we'll have none.
     
  8. BlackNet

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    Oh lets see here.

    CBS News: Bombs Made to Look Like ‘Discarded Property’


    Trash cans near the Capitol are apparently being removed as a precautionary measure

    ^^ bit late and things like this helps greatly at many areas, not only for stampeding sheep but well, bombs and such to. It is not a new practice by no means.


    Also see this one.
    intelligence failure

    Also these below images they are not natural disasters, tho I have to admit I have seen natural disaster that looked far better than some of these images.


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    There is absolutely no way in this world that you can secure the Boston Marathon route, short of declaring martial law. I was a cop north of Boston and I worked as a PI in and around Boston for a time. I am not a fan of the MA government but I am a fan of the law enforcement.
     
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    I have to admit after I saw the first forensics guy mentioning the color of the smoke was a clue I pulled up a recent video of me shooting black powder to compare.

    Last I heard there wasn't anything that would disallow it having been TATP which also produces a white cloud. It's a common homebrew explosive.
     
  11. husker

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    If you are going to add nails or ball bearings to your home made bomb. Putting such a device in a trashcan makes no sense at all. I just got home from work so havent heard anything since 8 am
     
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    Black powder in old pressure cooker will make a Boom.
     
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    I am shocked and saddened at this event but I am sickened by what NBC has just done.

    They stated that the bombs were made with smokeless gunpowder which is readily available at sporting goods stores.

    Makes me sick. So the issue of how this will impact us is very cogent.
     
  14. dickydalton

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    I already said that.

    Listen up people, they have made ammunition almost unavailable and now powder? Next will be our BP. You guys can't sell out the AR 15 Crowd and expect the Lefters to leave you alone. This is a well orchestrated campaign against the 2nd Amendment. they will come for YOU NEXT.:what:
     
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    Media feeding-frenzy as usual. The Perps are having a field day watching all the activity they caused. The Boston (Keystone) cops dropped the ball on security, just like they did at Logan on 9-11. What a surprise! Dept of Homeland Security will now use this to tighten their grip on freedom and the American way of life. When the miscreants are caught they will become celebrities extraordinaire at their trial with MSNBC, CNN and The rest of the "mainstream" media lining up to worship at the feet of true revolutionaries. Bill Ayers would be proud!
     
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    This is about as High Road as it gets. Wow.
     
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    I don't see that any of the articles you linked prove anything, BlackNet. Removing the trash ans in Boston would not have prevented the attack. That intelligence failure article basically said nothing. If the article writer knew anything about intelligence he'd know that what his quoted expert was saying that it's impossible to pick up actionable SIGINT when you're looking at a new, probably solitary terrorist. IE, there's nothing you can intercept if there's no one talking. The article writer also clearly has no idea just how much material there is to be processed especially given the limited resources that any agency has to work with.
     
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    Nothing left in this but hand-wringing, blame casting, and vapid speculation.

    Closed.
     
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