Ridgerunner I'll take your word on that, but I would still be a little hesitant to drop the hammer on ne of those loads. At least we both like leverguns I see Actually I'm infected with a very contaigus disease called Marlinitis, and my funds can't keep up with my addiction I also concur with Ridgerunner on the .35 Rem. It is a great cartridge that gets overlooked a lot, yet it has a lot to offer.