Google Catalogs Your Serial Numbers

[RETG]

I would NEVER post a photo of a gun online with the serial number visible! NEVER! In fact, on forums what have the "Show your guns" threads, I usually post a 50 year old Daisy Air Rifle and a Rubber band gun (no serial numbers for either).
The other thing many people forget is if you take a photo of your handgun with your cell phone, did you turn off your auto location for the photos? I have automatic software on my computer that if I place the mouse over the photo it tells me if there is GPS info for where the photo was taken.

As for facebook? Never have; never will have an account.

 

[wiscoaster]

Just the act of googling for a specific serial number will index it. It it wasn't in Google's "memory" before, it is now.

 

[Rule3]

None of that is my personal information.

What I'm saying is that if you post a photo of your gun showing the serial number on it, and have also posted the same gun with the serial number visible on your personal social media, then people can find your private account just by typing in the serial number to google because it will just pop up immediately.

I'm assuming that you don't want your private info to be accessible that easily?

I know it's not, I looked up the AR15 photo by the Marine, So what did it tell me? Nothing. Just like your name on this forum tells me nothing.

I do not use Google anyway.
Heck Google knows what you are going to type before you actually do!

 

[bdickens]

I do advanced networking to include firewalls and security for a living. I travel all over the place. You can watch your mobile devices, tablets, and browsers phoning home. Test your phone. Talk a bunch during the day about something you want to buy. Make it something unique. Like shoes for your dog. Then see if you get adds for that very thing. Just like Google reads identifying things in a picture like the serial number off a firearm or even the make or model. Once it is captured it is indexed for searching. If it is possible, then it is probable.

That sort of thing never happens to me. Ever.

 

[theotherwaldo]

I was creating informational web pages for my library systems over twenty years ago, back when Google couldn't find data unless there was a pre-existing link or metadata connected to that data. Much of my work was creating these links so that the data that my patrons (and others) could simply Google this data without using my pages.

My, how things have changed... .

 

[Meeks36]

Dont want the world to know something about you? Do not take pictures with phone or other ways.
Do not talk about it with electron's present.
Do not tell another person.
Do not write it down online or in person.
Well known fact alexa and google home devices are listening. Same as our phones, tablet's, PC, desktop, some fridge's, microwave, vehicles, thermostats, pretty much anything with a microphone someone somewhere Is listening/watching.

 

[Trey Veston]

Not too long ago I would have called this tinfoil hat stuff but it's uncanny how many times I have talked about something and had it pop up in ads on web pages. Same thing with mentioning a place and having it pop up in the Maps app as a suggested destination.

It's sort of creepy...

That's happened to me a couple of times. Talking to a couple of guys at work and one of them just bought a new mattress. We chatted about mattresses for a couple of minutes, then within ten minutes, all of us started getting mattress ads on social media. It's super creepy and something that should have been investigated and ended years ago.

 

[Palladan44]

I typed the serial number of every handgun I own into the Google none of them came up

They will come knocking, asking for every one of em in no time now brother....

 

[Old Dog]

Y'all remember the saying: the only way two people can keep a secret is if one of them is dead.

The ship has sailed. The genie is out of the bottle. We all have our shopping rewards or club cards, use debit and credit cards almost exclusively, get our photos taken when we go into airports, past traffic cameras and through stoplights or go in an out of any business, go through any retail business checkout counter, go into the bank or a government building. We all use Androids or I-phones. We all use personal computers tied to local ISPs. Oh, and pretty sure all here are using some form of social media.

You guys think the government doesn't have ALL your information, or couldn't easily obtain it within minutes?

I'm not gonna get wrapped around the axle because I posted a photo on THR with the serial number of a legally-purchased firearm visible (which I realize I've probably done in the past).

Old Dog out.
<puts tinfoil hat back on while pondering how to drop completely off the grid>

 

[George P]

WOW! just WOW. I might have to use something besides google. Too bad i will have to use google to google another search engine.

Try using Firefox and then Duck Duck Go or (my new favorite) Startpage for searches

And get rid of Alexa or similar in your home. it is an eavesdropping device

 

[George P]

I imagine all those who had a a sig line listing all of their guns have now deleted those

 

[JTHunter]

What else would you expect from one of the biggest non-governmental snoops out there? That's why I use Duck-Duck-Go for my search engine.

 

[Old Dog]

I imagine all those who had a a sig line listing all of their guns have now deleted those

The government doesn't care about your personally owned firearms. Besides, if you live (or have lived) in a state where private sales can be accomplished without paperwork, who really cares?

That's why I use Duck-Duck-Go for my search engine.

Uh, you think the government can't find access that search engine? Or that anything you do on a smart phone, tablet or PC can't be tracked?

Let's face it: we are so far beyond anything Orwell could have imagined that it just doesn't matter anymore. (And for some reason, I keep picturing scenes from that classic 70s sci-fi movie with the beautiful Jenny Agutter Logan's Run ... )

 

[Armorer 101]

I see all kinds of words here like smart or use, etc. How about Programs to associate data.
Now understand that the internet is a great community bowl of data and the large corporate or government agencies have an appetite for data that can not be satisfied, ever. 1+1+1+1+1=5 You have a grandkid, kid or in-law that loves twitter and/or facebook, look the kid up on the net then, their associations, then google earth, then street view. Follow the bouncing ball, it will come to you.
Every attorney I know has a trace program for social media. They can trace every post you ever made. They have a standard saying, never post or email anything you would not yell out, down town on main-street, at noon. They go through your posts for comments then ask under oath “have you ever said?”
The data use goes on and on, pictures have coordinates, dates, and can be referenced and catalogued. Got a med marijuana card? State will give every record to feds, by data file. Bang, bang, instant transfer. ATF has your adz if you buy a firearm and say no on #1.
The list goes on and on and on.

 

[Aim1]

Good to know. Thanks for the info.


Crazy.

 

[FlSwampRat]

and you're okay with google indexing your personal information?

Google is somewhat scary in the data they collect. For example, if you use Gmail and you are highly incensed about something and start typing a letter to largely blow off steam, Google is saving copies of that draft even if you delete it. After deletion it's gone from your computer, but not theirs.

 

[FlSwampRat]

The data use goes on and on, pictures have coordinates, dates, and can be referenced and catalogued.

This is why I use an older digital camera for all pictures, no meta data to strip off before posting.

 

[danez71]

So I’m not disputing any of this, but I’m trying to wrap my head around both how and why. I have an IPhone thru Verizon, so Google has access to Verizons wireless servers and my account which feeds the information to Googles servers which gathers the data and sends it out along with my cell or tablet IP address and stores it until I next access the web. Whew the computer time required must be enormous and all for just a possible shot at making a retail sale. This also means there must be a collusion to eves-drop on what is supposed to be a privacy of communications.

All under the guise of 'just a retail sale'.

Watch the movie Social Dilemma & keep an open mind and use some critical deductive reasoning to think thru the expansive implications.

It should be a PSA, imo

Keep in mind that the creators were disheartened very high level execs, inventors, & business developers that walked away (not disgruntled ex employees)

It really blow open what was very lightly glossed over in the articles you'll find if you search for "tech ceos dont let thier kids use social media" (the results aren't just for social media but include internet use in general)

It's mind control and you're just a product. 'Just a retail sale' is a myth that makes it palatable for people not question it further.

Watch and search what I mentioned above and decide for yourself.... the movie really lays it out and puts better perspective.


One of the things in the movie mentions briefly is that Google gives different search results in different parts of the country for things like global warming.

I traveled to E TX recently and happen to see the movie (daughters house on netflix). Tried the google example... came back to CA 2 days later and sure enough, the Google drop down suggestions for global warming were different. The drop down suggestions were more urgent and alarming in nature in CA which has a subconscious impact of enforcing a view point whether factually true or not. That can change your political view point and thus the way you vote.

You're targeted not just for a simple retail sale. You're targeted for your mind to get results they want you to see and based on your usage you're slowly fed results to gravitate you to view points that aren't necessarily based on any facts.


Seriously, Watch the movie and search what I mentioned above then decide for yourself.... the movie really lays it out, describes how, and puts better perspective on it.

 

[SharpDog]

Eh, I'm old and don't do anything illegal. Hear that Google, move along, nothing to see here, this is not the old geezer you're looking for.

I have Alexa jn every room, Onstar in the cars, networked cameras all around, computers everywhere, watch streaming TV.

I don't have any conceptions about defeating surveillance, I just accept it and go with the flow.

I use the gray man approach and try not to stand out in the crowd.

That way I use less tin foil ...

 

[wiscoaster]

Eh, I'm old and don't do anything illegal. Hear that Google, move along, nothing to see here, this is not the old geezer you're looking for.

 

[HB]

They can't catalog a number that isn't visible in the pic.

Read about geotags in photos. Most pics taken with smartphones imprint a coordinate in the file. So if i take a pic of my glock on a mountain, that pic is proof that that gun was at that coordinate at the time that is imbedded in the file info.

 

[GunnyUSMC]

I need more popcorn.
If you’re worried, just go darker. It won’t make you disappear, just harder to find.

 

[bdickens]

Read about geotags in photos. Most pics taken with smartphones imprint a coordinate in the file. So if i take a pic of my glock on a mountain, that pic is proof that that gun was at that coordinate at the time that is imbedded in the file info.

You can turn that off.

 

[bdickens]

To save a lot of typing:

https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...efore-posting-etc.877598/page-3#post-11700072

 

[Good Ol' Boy]

Just by being on this forum you are on a "list". You're absurdly naive if you think otherwise.

That being said, who cares about posting pics of guns?