Got my 1911 back from the gunsmith... and it still jams!!!!
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Lonestar49
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+1 for the above post reply
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~ Burn me once, shame on you.. Burn me twice, shame on me ~
Send it to those that know your gun inside out and take pride in making all their guns with a lifetime warranty, and stand behind it..
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~ Burn me once, shame on you.. Burn me twice, shame on me ~
Send it to those that know your gun inside out and take pride in making all their guns with a lifetime warranty, and stand behind it..
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Cloudpeak
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My bet is that 1911Tuner hit the nail on the head (as he usually does). When I was having feeding problems with my Champion he pointed me towards an extractor tension problem. I lessened extractor tension and it solved my feeding problems. It's easy to check this out and fix yourself. A valuable resource: http://forum.m1911.org/forumdisplay.php?f=117
I noticed the rounds were feeding up the left side of the ramp. Easy to see after some lead bullet round were fired through the pistol and the ramp was dirty. You could use a black Sharpie on the the feed ramp to see if this a problem in your gun before sending it back. It's possible that, after reading the 1911.org forum you may end up knowing more about your 1911 than the "smith" who worked on your gun.
Cloudpeak
(Though this is a ramped barrel, you may have similar "tracks" on your feed ramp on your 1911)
Harley Quinn
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Could be something wrong that you could talk over with the gunsmith and see if you can get it fixed
Once others work on warranty pistols the warranty seems to be invalid.Good luck
eric.cartman
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YES!
Had same problems with my S.A. 1911, I threw out the factory mags, and the problem went away
1 old 0311
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Got to wonder if I would EVER trust a pistol marked 'Some Assembly Required.'
1911Tuner
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NO! The standard 7-round magazines are actually pretty good. It's the springs that ain't worth spit, and occasionally the follower angle needs to be opened up a tick...but once that's done, they generally do very well, assuming that the gun itself is right.
former-redberet
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*Puts on a flame retardant suit* Get a glock (or sig)
BTW: my 1911 springer mags do just fine
(or sig)BTW: my 1911 springer mags do just fine
Harley Quinn
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That is a simple solution that just might do the trick, the extra umph is what you need going back into battery to feed those critters
PhillyGlocker
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How about getting a Glock? Problem solved.
Lonestar49
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Lot's of help.. ^^^
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Well, some people just have better taste..
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Well, some people just have better taste..
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My money is on the extractor...
After reading some troubleshooting tips by Mr. Tuner and co., I found that my formerly-possessed-by-satan-failure-to-feed-and-return-to-battery-POS-brand-new-kimber fed rounds as smooth as silk WITHOUT said possessed extractor. After tweaking it a bit to remove some tension, most of the feed problems vanished. After sending it to a competent smith, who builds long range bench rest rifles that shoot STUPID accurate groups from WAY too far away, the evil spirits have seemingly been exorsized from said demon kimber.
He smoothed up some of the angles on the extractor, and tweaked the tension with a tool, aside from doing some nice trigger work and a front sight installation. The once-formerly-possessed-by-satan-himself-Kimber has managed to get through about 300 rounds now with no issues using the same mags I used when it choked.
A good smith is like a good mechanic or barber. When you find one, stick with them.
Bottom line: Don't give up on the gun.
Unlike some of the other models, ie glocks, HK's, etc, you can LITERALLY make the 1911 YOURS by customizing it to YOUR liking. It may take some figuring to get it tuned up, but it CAN be tuned, and they DO run like the wind once you get em' set up nice.
MY SA 5" govt spec ran like a deer right out of the box using ANY mag and ANY ammo I put into it. That thing fired rounds that choked a USP .45, and I would absolutely stake my life on it's reliability. Granted, she's a loose gun and not as accurate as my formerly-possessed-by-the-dark-lord-Kimber, but I would carry it over the Kimber now, until the Kimber proves as reliable.
After reading some troubleshooting tips by Mr. Tuner and co., I found that my formerly-possessed-by-satan-failure-to-feed-and-return-to-battery-POS-brand-new-kimber fed rounds as smooth as silk WITHOUT said possessed extractor. After tweaking it a bit to remove some tension, most of the feed problems vanished. After sending it to a competent smith, who builds long range bench rest rifles that shoot STUPID accurate groups from WAY too far away, the evil spirits have seemingly been exorsized from said demon kimber.
He smoothed up some of the angles on the extractor, and tweaked the tension with a tool, aside from doing some nice trigger work and a front sight installation. The once-formerly-possessed-by-satan-himself-Kimber has managed to get through about 300 rounds now with no issues using the same mags I used when it choked.
A good smith is like a good mechanic or barber. When you find one, stick with them.
Bottom line: Don't give up on the gun.
Unlike some of the other models, ie glocks, HK's, etc, you can LITERALLY make the 1911 YOURS by customizing it to YOUR liking. It may take some figuring to get it tuned up, but it CAN be tuned, and they DO run like the wind once you get em' set up nice.
MY SA 5" govt spec ran like a deer right out of the box using ANY mag and ANY ammo I put into it. That thing fired rounds that choked a USP .45, and I would absolutely stake my life on it's reliability. Granted, she's a loose gun and not as accurate as my formerly-possessed-by-the-dark-lord-Kimber, but I would carry it over the Kimber now, until the Kimber proves as reliable.
1911Tuner
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Yeah. You can slap a band-aid on it...or you can just fix the gun.
wristtwister
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The factory knows...
Regardless of what's wrong with your pistol, the factory is the place to fix it.
It's their product, and if you're the "original" owner, you should get good service out of them. I like working on guns myself, but I take old guns and work on them. If somebody brought me a "new" gun, I'd send it straight to the factory and let them determine what the problem was. It could have been built on a monday morning or a friday afternoon... when the staff was either hung over or in a hurry to leave... who knows... but I can assure you that they want people making positive comments about their products... and their customer service.
I've had issues with both Smith and Wesson and Ruger, and both have prepaid shipping, constant monitoring of the work order, and are looking for their product reputation to be enhanced rather than disparaged. They take care of people who buy their products... and I suspect your manufacturer is wanting that same opportunity.
If you're going to pay somebody to fix your gun, who knows more about it than the factory that made it? When all else fails... use common sense.
WT
Regardless of what's wrong with your pistol, the factory is the place to fix it.
It's their product, and if you're the "original" owner, you should get good service out of them. I like working on guns myself, but I take old guns and work on them. If somebody brought me a "new" gun, I'd send it straight to the factory and let them determine what the problem was. It could have been built on a monday morning or a friday afternoon... when the staff was either hung over or in a hurry to leave... who knows... but I can assure you that they want people making positive comments about their products... and their customer service.
I've had issues with both Smith and Wesson and Ruger, and both have prepaid shipping, constant monitoring of the work order, and are looking for their product reputation to be enhanced rather than disparaged. They take care of people who buy their products... and I suspect your manufacturer is wanting that same opportunity.
If you're going to pay somebody to fix your gun, who knows more about it than the factory that made it? When all else fails... use common sense.
WT
1911Tuner
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Oh...I can name about a dozen right off the top of my head.
Unless you consider your gunsmith a complete idiot, (why did you take the thing to him in the first place?) take the gun back to him & let him make it right. Pretty much everybody can make a mistake, what seperates them from the others is the ability to admit the mistake, then fix it. And you might be doing the guy a favour. He will probably be more careful the next time he does a job like yours.
gudel
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Can you get your money back? I'd ask him that.
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