runrabbitrun: "Just saying if SHTF ALL BETS ARE OFF and we will do what we must to survive as free people."
Doesn't fly, Orville.
Whether the lights come back on a week later, a year later, or not at all, individuals, their communities and the state will mete out justice as seen fit. Life does not become a video game just because the lights go out. Those who would see me and mine as a way to obtain the food and weapons they lack, or my community as a foraging source, will learn the folly of their reasoning the hard way -- in the gutter.