GP100 bad chamber

[sendtoscott]

After having the trigger pull made lighter, my 'smith discovered a problem w/ one of the chambers in the cylinder (as opposed to one of the chambers somewhere else, I guess ). With a lighter set of springs, that one cylinder always misfires S&B and Magtech (i.e. cheap ammo). It hasn't had a problem w/ anything I'd use for defense, but a nightstand gun misfiring just gives me an uneasy feeling. He says the ammo in that chamber sits just a little bit further in, causing the pin not to hit it quite as hard as it hits the other rounds.

Any suggestions? I may just ship it back to Ruger and see if I can get some warantee work.

 

[tc300mag1]

Only thing is you send it back to ruger they will put it back to stock and not ship you the modded parts back be warned.. but on other hand i would wnat it fixed so it right also. Also is it really a gun problem or did smith go to light one springs? My super redhawk misfired when i went to light.. Jsut some thoughts

 

[sendtoscott]

I'll have them put the stock springs back in - IMHO its BS that Ruger will claim the right to basically confiscate grips and front sights w/ the excuse of making the gun 'stock' to fix a mechanical problem.

What do they do w/ the parts they steal this way?

The misfires happen consistently on one chamber - the other 5 are fine w/ the lighter springs.

Edit: Its also been suggested that since it works w/ stock springs, Ruger will call it "in spec" and not do anything.

 

[pahrumpcaveman]

Only one way to find out . Send it back with the stock springs and see .

 

[tc300mag1]

No its more internal parts and its not stealing if all you did was spring no biggy but if someone fooled with ahmmer / trigger assy they will repalce all that stuff is what im talking about .. the dont care about grips..

I picked up a sweet deal on a super redhawk becuse soem one fooled with inside and messed it up gun shop sent it in they rebuilt it with all new parts and i got a heck of a deal

 

[JohnKSa]

If one takes a working gun and modifies it so that it doesn't work anymore, I can't see by what machinations of logic one can reach the conclusion that it's the manufacturer's responsibility to make it work again.

Still, Ruger's pretty accomodating and my guess is that they'll at least try to "fix" it.

BTW, Ruger may not ship the gun back with the aftermarket/modified parts INSTALLED, but that doesn't mean they're going to "steal" them. Just request that they return any replaced parts along with the gun.

 

[sendtoscott]

BTW, Ruger may not ship the gun back with the aftermarket/modified parts INSTALLED, but that doesn't mean they're going to "steal" them. Just request that they return any replaced parts along with the gun.

Which will allow them to sell new sights and grips to me whether I want them or not. I'll take off the new ones and replace the old ones before sending it back, but am really unhappy that I have to make a special effort to keep Ruger from costing me unnecessary money to honor their own warantee.

 

[JohnKSa]

If Ruger fixes it, I seriously doubt it will cost you anything other than what you pay to ship it to them--they might even agree to refund your shipping costs if you ask them nicely.

JMHO, but your righteous indignation is unwarranted since the gun worked fine until you paid to have it modified...

I know of NO manufacturer with a warranty or guarantee that says their product will work regardless of how the buyer chooses to modify it.

 

[sendtoscott]

JMHO, but your righteous indignation is unwarranted since the gun worked fine until you paid to have it modified...

A refusal to fix the one bad cylinder issue so it works w/ a lighter spring is annoying, but one thing. If they take the opportunity to 'sell' me a new original equipment front sight and grip (or will if I don't remember to swap the replacements out), that's just cheap on their part, since those parts aren't involved.

 

[JohnKSa]

Here's what I'm getting at. No one makes perfect guns. Every gun ever built has manufacturing tolerances built into it. The design of the firearm compensates for these variances. For example, when Ruger designed the GP100, he may have sat at his desk and said something like this: "Well, I know that our manufacturing process will only control the headspace on this revolver to tolerance X--so I'll have to install a Y lb hammer spring to insure consistent ignition.

When you change the design (by lightening springs, for example) it's possible to eliminate design features that compensate for manufacturing variance. It's not fair to say that the cylinder is bad or to claim that this is a warranty issue since the gun works perfectly in its factory configuration.

OK, all that aside. I don't think it will make a hill of beans difference. The only person I've heard of being charged by Ruger customer service was a fellow I know who blew up a RedHawk with an insane handload. They still sold him a new replacement pistol at their cost--under $200 IIRC. A tremendous deal, IMO.

I don't work for Ruger so I can't say for sure you won't be charged, but from what I've heard and experienced I can say that it is HIGHLY unlikely that Ruger will charge you for ANY parts or labor involved. Their customer service is excellent--about as good as it gets. If you ask, they may even refund your shipping costs as I mentioned previously.

 

[tc300mag1]

Your not paying attn to what were saying i did say internal parts would be replaced and not sent back that were modded. Since when are grips and front sights INTERNAL PARTS ..INTERNAL PARTS IS WHAT THEY WILL REMOVE AND NOT SEND BACK IF MODDED..CAN YOUHEAR ME NOW ?

 

[sendtoscott]

John, I was going on other people saying they had grips/sights replaced. If that doesn't happen to me, then everything w/ Ruger is cool. Unfortunately, I'm still going to have to replace everything first just in case.

 

[sendtoscott]

TC, I heard from others that they replace grips, etc. I wasn't reading that into what you said.