Green machine !!!
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If you're referring to the Chargemaster Combo (powder dispenser and scale), I have one and particularly love it for stick powders and rifle cases. I recently saw them at Sportsman's Warehouse priced at $329.00, so $300 is pretty good.
If you are referring to the RCBS Case Prep Center, I love that tool, too, but I am sure I paid considerably less than $300 for mine. More like $130, IIRC.
Poper
If you are referring to the RCBS Case Prep Center, I love that tool, too, but I am sure I paid considerably less than $300 for mine. More like $130, IIRC.
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Downright persnickety would be another word. If they were the cat's meow they would still be on the market now would not they?
A shooting buddy had one way back, if were not for his mechanical apptitude......it was easy for me to buy a Dillon 450......
A shooting buddy had one way back, if were not for his mechanical apptitude......it was easy for me to buy a Dillon 450......
RON in PA
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You should have asked before you bought it. RCBS did not keep them on the market for very long as there lots of problems with it.
dagger dog
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Welcome alca,
Rcbs is known for their quality and customer support, even if the equipment is used, anyone that has had dealings with customer relations has always had a good experiance.
I suggest you go on and take the time to set up your new equipment and give it a try before you give up on it. If it doesn't work properly, contact the people at RCBS and see if there are any tips or changes you can make with the set up to correct any problems.
Thre are many fellow reloaders that might be able to help you with any questions you may have , so stick with this site, read as many posts on the subject of reloading as you can.
And again welcome to the High Road!
Rcbs is known for their quality and customer support, even if the equipment is used, anyone that has had dealings with customer relations has always had a good experiance.
I suggest you go on and take the time to set up your new equipment and give it a try before you give up on it. If it doesn't work properly, contact the people at RCBS and see if there are any tips or changes you can make with the set up to correct any problems.
Thre are many fellow reloaders that might be able to help you with any questions you may have , so stick with this site, read as many posts on the subject of reloading as you can.
And again welcome to the High Road!
There are only two ways the answers can go when you ask about anything after you bought it. It's too late to give advice about whether or not it would be a wise purchase. I agree with Dagger Dog. Contact RCBS and enlist their aid setting it up. Search all the reloading forums you can find for info, note I said search, as in use the "Search" function on the websites, not just post a generic question.
cochise9424221
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very cool old C&H's. Dont see those much anymore.
You have to pay close attn for skipped primers as that lets powder into the works. Also dirt and carbon from old primers does the same thing. You really have to pay attention when loading so you don't miss any little hiccup that gets everything out of sequence. They do work, but don't try to go too fast.john14150
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rcbs green machine
any one have the parts to change over a 38/357 machine to 45
or a not working 45 cheap
also looking for 9 mm parts
email me at [email protected]
any one have the parts to change over a 38/357 machine to 45
or a not working 45 cheap
also looking for 9 mm parts
email me at [email protected]
Hi John
Have you located any 9mm parts I guess you mean for Green Machine I have one but took some of the dies out if you were going to change from one cal to another it will give you grief unless you are very mechanical most user owners only had trouble because they never understood the machine also primer feed is prone to problems I threw it out and fitted a Dillon primer tube assy on it then I could line up 15 tubes (Dillon Primer Tubes) also Put a Dillon case feeder on it and all going well which was most of the time I could load 1500 rounds in one Hour keeping it clean and the brain in gear it would load better than my progressive Dillon 1000 I sold the 1000 because the RCBS GM was better and over the years when I loaded large amounts it served me well and I rebuilt it recently an Electroless Nickeled some of the steel parts some years I shot 50,000 38 special WC rounds, but the Dillon 1000 9mm I have worked better than the RCBS G Machine it seemed to give more trouble than the 38 SPL did.
I had a number of different progressive reloaders over the years but nothing was as good as the modified GM 38 SPL. my health has stopped me shooting otherwise that machine would still be going strong.
I have the Operators Manuel for it if you needed a copy.
Have you located any 9mm parts I guess you mean for Green Machine I have one but took some of the dies out if you were going to change from one cal to another it will give you grief unless you are very mechanical most user owners only had trouble because they never understood the machine also primer feed is prone to problems I threw it out and fitted a Dillon primer tube assy on it then I could line up 15 tubes (Dillon Primer Tubes) also Put a Dillon case feeder on it and all going well which was most of the time I could load 1500 rounds in one Hour keeping it clean and the brain in gear it would load better than my progressive Dillon 1000 I sold the 1000 because the RCBS GM was better and over the years when I loaded large amounts it served me well and I rebuilt it recently an Electroless Nickeled some of the steel parts some years I shot 50,000 38 special WC rounds, but the Dillon 1000 9mm I have worked better than the RCBS G Machine it seemed to give more trouble than the 38 SPL did.
I had a number of different progressive reloaders over the years but nothing was as good as the modified GM 38 SPL. my health has stopped me shooting otherwise that machine would still be going strong.
I have the Operators Manuel for it if you needed a copy.
Larry Burchfield
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IMHO "If it ain't blue you have wasted your money".
Larry Burchfield
SEABEE/RVN/67/68/69
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IMHO "If it ain't blue you have wasted your money".
Larry Burchfield
SEABEE/RVN/67/68/69
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There's a local gunshop that has had one sitting on the shelf for going on 2 years, there's a reason it's still there. The GM had too many "quirks" for most reloaders.
Larry Burchfield
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green machine
I've got a good friend that has had one for ever since they hit the market. I guess he keeps it to remind him of his mistake. He uses a Dillon 650 now.
Larry Burchfield
SEABEE/RVN67/68/69
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I've got a good friend that has had one for ever since they hit the market. I guess he keeps it to remind him of his mistake. He uses a Dillon 650 now.
Larry Burchfield
SEABEE/RVN67/68/69
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bonza
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I believe they aren't too bad if you just keep it dedicated to one caliber. If you keep changing it to reload different calibers you'll run into problems. My suggestion is use it for one caliber, keep it clean, & don't try to do any speed loading.
Grump
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I have access to one in 9mm, and it's great until you skip a primer or get some range trash brass with a mushroomed primer.
Powder in the works if you skip a primer. I took to keeping a straw on the bench to blow it out of the little ratchet thingies on the shellcase base.
Mushroomed primers gummed it up horribly. The *same* hole in a slider used to feed the new primers is also the hole the fired ones drop out of. That's the biggest design mistake, IMO.
I thought I liked the ability to pull two pins and disconnect the primer feed (skipped cases--rare enough to keep me happy), until I found one batch of ammo with at least 6 duds. Really thought I was being careful on that.
There's a routine of watching and listening to the primer feed and case feed components, putting your finger over the charged case's mouth as it advances, dropping the bullet in the neato side-loading seater die, and feeling for primer pickup jams on the upstroke that makes it very satisfying when it hums along.
I can easily do 200 per hour including loading the casefeeder and the primer feeder with a typical number if hiccups, and 350 per hour when it doesn't hang up more than twice per hour and the jams are quickly cleared.
When humming, it FEELS nicer than the Dillon 550, and almost as good as a Star. Use both of those, too.
The Green Machine even worked great with some Fiocchi cases that has super-small flashholes that were being swaged bigger by the decapper pin.
It's just not a machine for mechanical idiots who just push harder when something gets a little stiff.
Powder in the works if you skip a primer. I took to keeping a straw on the bench to blow it out of the little ratchet thingies on the shellcase base.
Mushroomed primers gummed it up horribly. The *same* hole in a slider used to feed the new primers is also the hole the fired ones drop out of. That's the biggest design mistake, IMO.
I thought I liked the ability to pull two pins and disconnect the primer feed (skipped cases--rare enough to keep me happy), until I found one batch of ammo with at least 6 duds. Really thought I was being careful on that.
There's a routine of watching and listening to the primer feed and case feed components, putting your finger over the charged case's mouth as it advances, dropping the bullet in the neato side-loading seater die, and feeling for primer pickup jams on the upstroke that makes it very satisfying when it hums along.
I can easily do 200 per hour including loading the casefeeder and the primer feeder with a typical number if hiccups, and 350 per hour when it doesn't hang up more than twice per hour and the jams are quickly cleared.
When humming, it FEELS nicer than the Dillon 550, and almost as good as a Star. Use both of those, too.
The Green Machine even worked great with some Fiocchi cases that has super-small flashholes that were being swaged bigger by the decapper pin.
It's just not a machine for mechanical idiots who just push harder when something gets a little stiff.
roc1
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I had one for a while. Brad at RCBS was helpful getting me parts to get it up and running. He told me himself they are tricky and he was right it was very hard to make it run right. I have a Dillon Square Deal and the Hornady AP press either of those work a whole lot better and simpilier. I have owned the Dillon 550 and a couple of Starrs and even an old Berdan press that was copied from a Starr it was junk the Starr is a great machine.All this being said and loading on a lot of diferent machines I have owned the RCBS was the only one that I could not make work right for any lenght of time. It has to be set just right. I am glad I got rid of it and will stick to the Dillon and Hornady.
Good Luck maybe yours is in working condition. Call Brad at RCBS he is the only one left there that can help you.
roc1
Good Luck maybe yours is in working condition. Call Brad at RCBS he is the only one left there that can help you.
roc1
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A French sports shooter Bonjour I am looking for a green machine, can you help me has to find one.
Thanks in advance
my email [email protected]
A French sports shooter Bonjour I am looking for a green machine, can you help me has to find one.
Thanks in advance
my email [email protected]
ljnowell
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Yep typical. Dont tell my guns or my ammo that they are wasted, since they were loaded on a lee press. All that money I saved just bought more components.
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