Gun buyback colt M4

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Watching the news early this morning. I saw that Fort pierce Fl. had A gun buyback.
Some idiot brought in A nice M4 Flattop Fully loaded and sold it for $100.

Could not have been stolen? could it?

The cops said that getting this one gun off the street made the whole buyback worth it.
It looked like everything else they got was junk.
 
When I lived in Cincinnati the total and complete idiots who had somehow lied and cheated their way into elected office passed an assault weapon ban (along with a waiting period on handgun sales) and some poor chump took his AR15 and M1 Carbine to the police to ask if it was illegal to have them under the new law.

Nope, it wasn't. I usually support the cops but these guys were no better than the cretins at City Hall and arrested the guy who was only trying to do the right thing in obeying this stupid and unconstitutional law. Anyway, the AR was "converted to law enforcement use" (meaning the police department STOLE the guy's gun) and the Carbine was destroyed and as a result the prosecutor decided there wasn't evidence to go to trial. All the law abiding citizen trying to do the right thing got was arrested, booked, out the cost of bond and attorney's fees, having his name dragged through the muck-racking paper (it was a bad one on gun issues) and of course he had two valuable guns stolen by the cops. Not bad. The Nazis in Cincinnati city government should have kicked his dog while they were at it.

Yes, that M4 was stolen. I doubt the owner will get it back.

I'm going to buy 10 broken down $10 guns and wait for one these $100 for each gun, government sponsored things.
 
I don't see why they call it a 'buyback' as they didn't own the gun in the first place. I think we need some better laws as to the return of stolen arms nationally. my father (even though he is an idiot) got robbed twice.. once by the burglar that stole his guns, and again by the cops that refuse to return them. I think he's been treated badly. And this is in idaho... a pro-gun state. Then there's the gal whose husband beat the dog-snot out of her. he goes to jail, cops take every gun in the house (community property, mind you) they divorce later... she can't get the guns back, and he can't own them. I can cite many examples. If someone steals from me I will take possession of my property again if I know where it is/who has it.
 
One of my concerns with the buyback programs is people who just need money and do not know what they have.
Example- Grandpa passed away grandmas SS check does cover all the bills so she takes grandpas old Colt single action down to the buyback And sells it for $100. I know it is rare but i'm sure it happens.
I'm sure no one there will tell her she has A big money collectable.
While not likley this colt could belong to someones son or husband that passed away and they just need money.
 
I'd like to see every one of those theft-under-the-color-of-law cases reported to the BATFE.

Dunno if it would do any good, but might be fun for awhile.

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I don't see why they call it a 'buyback' as they didn't own the gun in the first place. I think we need some better laws as to the return of stolen arms nationally. my father (even though he is an idiot) got robbed twice.. once by the burglar that stole his guns, and again by the cops that refuse to return them. I think he's been treated badly. And this is in idaho... a pro-gun state. Then there's the gal whose husband beat the dog-snot out of her. he goes to jail, cops take every gun in the house (community property, mind you) they divorce later... she can't get the guns back, and he can't own them. I can cite many examples. If someone steals from me I will take possession of my property again if I know where it is/who has it.
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scenarios like this happen all the time, and on THR there have been several instances where people have had problems getting guns back from the police, because the police say things like "it's not our policy to return them".

The topic does not last long, because after the topic maker takes the advice of getting a lawyer that gets posted within the first couple minutes, they get the guns back shortly thereafter.
 
high end guns are always getting taken to gun buy back. Its a shame really that when the police go on the news and show tables of what they collect. Sometimes its alot of 1200 dollar sxs, o/u shotguns, to colt snake series in immaculate nickel and ivory stocks.

You should know that the good stuff never gets destroyed. I thought i remembered a lawsuit about that here years ago.
 
Buybacks are horrible.

I think we should petition the government to have them stopped. They are taking our tax dollars and giving it to people, along with immunity to criminals who often have stolen the guns from law abiding citizens.

What genius decided to start this process?
 
The m4 was either stolen or a PD plant for publicity purposes,IMO. Was that M4 ever "on the street" or in someone's private collection?
 
They are taking our tax dollars and giving it to people, along with immunity to criminals who often have stolen the guns from law abiding citizens.
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So what you are saying is that the stolen weapons are better off with the individual that had stolen it?

Any firearms recovered and found to be stolen would be returned if the owner can be located. but as in many cases their are no records, nor was the item reported stolen it cannot be returned.
 
So what you are saying is that the stolen weapons are better off with the individual that had stolen it?
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YES.

I trust a burglar more than i trust the government. At least the burglar is consistent in his actions and does not pretend to be your friend.
 
I mind.

But I can stop a burglar from stealing my stuff legally. I can't stop a police break-in (so-called no-knock warrant serving) without going to jail or being killed outright, even if I have done nothing wrong. And what happens if I try to stop the government from stealing from me (taxes)? Once again, I go to jail.


One must understand, the government is comprised of a body of people just as the rest of society is. Many of them are criminals; they just use the legitimacy of law to coerce the law abiding letting them steal from them. Theft of money, property, and rights.

Yeah, I'll take the burglar. At least he's only interested in my stereo.
 
So you don't mind if your home gets broken into and your property stolen?
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That's not what he said. The burglar is a known evil. These idiotic "buy-backs" are an evil operating under the pretext of the common good, and many people don't know better.
 
What does that have to do with the topic of a Gun Buy Back?
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I was merely qualifying my statement that I trust a burglar more than I do the government, nothing more.


A gun buy-back might be a good idea, but only under explicit rules, including the zero-hassle return of any firearms determined to have been stolen. There should also be a gun dealer there who offers free appraisals to people who bring rare or expensive firearms and don't know any better, or even failing that, just a blue book of used firearm values available for the people to check themselves before turning in a $3000 1880s Colt single action army, for $50.
 
That's not what he said
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That's exactly what he said. He would rather trust the thief so in essence he has no problem with someone taking his property.

As far as the buy back, no one is forcing anyone to turn in a firearm. If they chose to do so, that is their right. If the deal is bad, that's their problem.

It's funny how so see no problem with selling a thousand primers at five hundred or more markup yet have a problem with someone turning in a piece of crap firearm for almost face value. If someone was stupid enough to get taken by turning in a valuable rifle for little money, so be it.

There should also be a gun dealer there who offers free appraisals to people who bring rare or expensive firearms and don't know any better, or even failing that, just a blue book of used firearm values available for the people to check themselves before turning in a $3000 1880s Colt single action army, for $50.
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Why should a firearm's owner need a Buy Back program to take advantage of those services. Anyone with half a brain can call a dealer and get an appraisal. It doesn't take a genius to get access to a book of gun values to look up the true worth.
 
That's exactly what he said. He would rather trust the thief so in essence he has no problem with someone taking his property.
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Trust is the intrinsic faith that someone will perform in a certain way. I trust the burglar will attempt to steal from me. I can stop that. I can't do the same with the government.
 
I've yet to see a home that was occupied 24/7. I've yet to see anyone stay awake 27/7 and to date have not see a alarm system they is foolproof.

No one is totally secure. you can try to do the best but nothing is absolutely effective.
 
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