Gun fell out of my holster today.

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Check with an attorney. Because they state it in the handbook doesn't mean your breaking the law.

In the state of Washington, for example, a business can post no firearms but I break no law in carry a concealed weapon on that businesses premise. However, if the owner asks me to leave, then I must do so immeadiately or I am tresspassing.

Now, in Texas and Minneasota, for example, you cannot leagally carry on a premise that declares itself a firing... I mean, gun free zone.

So, checking with an attorney before you send a letter to the institutions president.

Also, make sure you distinguish between secondary and post-secondary institutions. So far as I am ignorant, Universities are not secondary schools.
 
I once flashed an empty holster to campus securty by mistake. They were very polite about it but they did come into class and ask me to accompany them into the hallway. They asked me if I was carrying a gun. I showed them the empty holster and told them I did not carry on campus.

It was a close one for me but they were very professional about it.
 
I often worry about someone seeing my empty holster when on campus but b/c it is a IWB using velcro clips it is too much of a pain to put on and off. I almost need to undress to get it back on.

I am in Louisiana and the law states that you can only carry on campus (university) if you have permission b/c the firearm is used in a school related function or you are going from your dorm to your car.
You are allowed to keep a weapon in your residence and you vehicle. I guess the dorm is considered your residence if living on campus.

I noticed the Firearm Free Zone signs only list a small section of the statute, just like the signs in the post office do. They leave out the part that lets you have a firearm.

Santa is bringing me the same holster you were using, have you had any other problems with it?

Thanks
 
It looks like you have found one of the very few teachers in this Country who isn't a card carrying Liberal. 99.9% of teachers in this Counrty would have turned you in instead of urging you to quickly pick up your gun before someone sees it.
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I don't think the percentage is quite that high. I believe that a majority of them are antis but we might me surprised at how many rank and file teachers are pro 2A and keep mouths shut to stay out of trouble. Its probably like law enforcement. At the lower levels many are officers, just like teachers are
pro Bill of Rights. Its when you get to the Administrative level that we start finding gross and obvious polictically correct thinking. This PC crap includes anti gun/self responsibility thinking. And its those at this level who are able to widely publicize their beliefs and force their positions into policy.

I can't say for sure but it's my theory that people who are anti tend to gravitate to positions of authority because the same mindset that makes them want to ban guns makes them seek positions where they can tell others what to do. The corollary is that people who are pro 2A tend to believe in minimal government and minimal need for supervision and rules. Hard to prove but could be the way it works.
 
This is a tech school, a trade school.
Not someplace where teenagers are running around and security is deployed for their safety.
And I'm not embarressed in the least to say that because I've already put
four years into a very good, and very liberal college and got nothing out of it.

I'm not champing at the bit to get my badge to carry in those school halls,
but I don't see what I could lose by learning more about the legisation trying to secure permission.
I mean, it would be one more place I don't have to disarm myself for the next two years.

I do not accept that schools are schools are schools.
That any place where a person learns automatically makes a firearm verbotten.
It's the gray areas where the 2A battles are fought, after all.

I'm in my mid twenties and I'm the youngest person in my class.
One guy is in his forties and several of them have families.
I'm not endangering anyone's kids by carrying.


And my instructor is most definitely pro 2nd.
I've discussed firearms with him before and even showed him THR briefly.
We talked quite a bit about self defense after class that day.
I've got nothing to fear about him "turning me in"
but I can't put him in a position to get penalized along with me if a stink ever was made.

So I'll not carry to class in the future just like 98% of the other times I showed up.
If I can somehow secure confidence or permission in my ability to carry concealed again, I would prefer that.
But it won't be anytime soon.

Thanks for the replies.



Oh, and the Galco Classic is an okay holster.
Since it's not form-fitted, it's more flexible as to what pistols you can carry in it.
But you get ZERO retention if that strap comes undone.
I'm going to look into ways to mod the snap to prevent a repeat.

This isn't the first time the retaining strap has come undone,
but it's the first time the gun ever dropped to the floor.
And I've never taken my gun someplace where it was
illegal for me to have it, and that includes today, IMO.
 
I had a pistol fall out of an IWB holster and into the toilet as I was pulling my pants back up after having a movement...

So I stripped it down right there in the bathroom of the Sushi bar and cleaned it. A few minutes into cleaning it, the owner walked in on me, ny pistol in pieces in the sink.. He looked at me, I explained what happened and he left. A minute later he returned with some CLP. Apparently he CCW'd too and had that unfortunate curcumstance happen once himself.

I'll never look at sushi, or bowel movements, quite the same way again.. (nor do I carry with an open top holster anymore) :)
 
I had a pistol fall out of an IWB holster and into the toilet as I was pulling my pants back up after having a movement...

So I stripped it down right there in the bathroom of the Sushi bar and cleaned it. A few minutes into cleaning it, the owner walked in on me, ny pistol in pieces in the sink.. He looked at me, I explained what happened and he left. A minute later he returned with some CLP. Apparently he CCW'd too and had that unfortunate curcumstance happen once himself.

I'll never look at sushi, or bowel movements, quite the same way again.. (nor do I carry with an open top holster anymore)
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hahaha...that story, combined with your user name is just too funny. :D
 
Speaking of embarassing 'oops' situations, though a different strain to this one... someone i know was telling me the other day about a situation where he was delivering pizza's at least 10 years ago. He didn't have a CCW at the time but kept his .38 chiefs special in his car just in case. He was delivering a pie to a really rough part of town and had worn his pistol to the door and back for one of the more tenuous deliveries, then forgot to remove it and placed it in his glovebox like he normally did. Next delivery was the state capital building. Walks through the metal detector...BEEEP BEEP BEEP...oh SH!!!!, as it beeped he remembered/realised he still had it holstered on him.

The security card looked at him, he shrugged as if to say "?!?!" and the security card just waved him through. Hows about that for security?

Up he goes to deliver the pie to the 15th floor, armed. Funny thing is, employees there probably would've been frisked and disarmed. Just goes to show how useful the restriction is.
 
I had a Kel-Tec hop out of a pocket holster on me once. I was doing on-site computer service at the time, and was at a customer's location. I went to sit down, and heard an absolutely sickening clatter as my gun bounced onto the floor. I snatched it up with a muffled curse, turned to look at the fellow who was our contact at this company, and apologized. He said, "Man, I'm glad nobody walked past the door right then." He carried a Colt Mustang .380 in his pocket every day. :eek:
 
In VA, you can carry on college campus. The law only applys to grade and high schools. Colleges, both public and private, are not included. I use to work for a Campus polilce department, and they caught someone on campus carrying. They scoured the state code book, and also talked to the Virginia State Police. There was nothing at all they could charge them with.

As a student, or staff, you cant carry due to the regulations of the school, but they do not apply to visitors, other than asking them to leave.

Sparky
 
dont know about 1000ft from school law but in MI even with a ccw you can not carry on school property
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As stated earlier,In MI you can have your gun on you (with a cpl) while in your vehicle on public school grounds but you must disarm when you get out. On University or college campuses.You can carry except in a dorm room, class room or a sports stadium.
I have been told (but can not confirm) that U of M & MSU are exceptions and no carry is allowed.
 
shopping in Target

feel your pain!

I have had CCW for over 15 years, and had one such incident - my Glock 26 worked itself out of an IWB holster when I was carrying a bunch of packages in a crowded Target store. Clattered to the floor. One woman was glaring at me as I tucked i back in under my jacket. As I walked away, I realized that she thoght I was shoplifting something!;)

Never used that holster again!
 
It looks like you have found one of the very few teachers in this Country who isn't a card carrying Liberal. 99.9% of teachers in this Counrty would have turned you in instead of urging you to quickly pick up your gun before someone sees it
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My, what a provocative statement. I don't suppose you could marshall any kind of factual citations to support such a bold assertion?
 
I have had similar situations

In one of my laptop bags a hole had developed that proved large enough for one of my 45 mags to slip out, while I was exiting an Engineering lecture. I quickly set my bag down and recovered the mag. Suprisingly, no one screamed and ran away. I have my ccw for Oregon and pack every where I legally can. The only other time was while I was jogging out to the 50 yard line, in the pouring rain and the retention strap of my Uncle Mikes sidekick allowed my Kimber to fly out when I took a 90 degree turn towards my target. The 45 slid nearly 8 feet on the packed gravel and really scratched up the bluing. These learning experiences show me the need to invest in better gear.

Not to forget, yes this is my first post here, hello all, I usually just read the posts and keep my mouth shut. Keeps me from putting my foot in my mouth.
 
Is the Galco Classic one of those horizontal holsters? The kind that point a loaded weapon at the people behind you?

Get a better holster.
 
TaxPhd said:
Is the Galco Classic one of those horizontal holsters? The kind that point a loaded weapon at the people behind you?
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Yes, but what relevence is this?

Most holsters point a loaded gun at our own feet, legs, and groin. So what?
Nobody knows that there is a gun pointed at them (unless it falls out, hyuk)

Also, when my P345 is on safe, it is impossible for it to be fired. Truely impossible.
This is true for most pistols with safety, but it is really true for a decocked P345.
 
If you think it is OK to point a loaded gun at others, while saying "It's OK, the safety is on" then my post has no relevance.

An AD while in my IWB holster will crease my butt, and that is a risk I am willing to take. I don't have the right to impose that risk on others.




Scott
 
I'm finally getting around to investigatiing the legislature

237.110

* Elementary or secondary school facilities or any other property owned, used, or operated by any board of education, school, board of trustees, regents, or directors for the administration of any public or private educational institution. The provisions of this section shall not apply to institutions of postsecondary or higher education. Note: Unlawful possession of a weapon on school property in Kentucky is a felony punishable by a maximum of five (5) years in prison and a ten thousand dollar ($10,000) fine.
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Seems like I'm allright on a state level, but expulsion would hurt me plenty.

Guess the next step is to seek permission from the school administration, or get a IWB or deepcover holster.



PS, Taxy, peep this thread.
 
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I had a pistol fall out of an IWB holster and into the toilet as I was pulling my pants back up after having a movement...
So I stripped it down right there in the bathroom of the Sushi bar and cleaned it. A few minutes into cleaning it, the owner walked in on me, ny pistol in pieces in the sink.. He looked at me, I explained what happened and he left. A minute later he returned with some CLP. Apparently he CCW'd too and had that unfortunate curcumstance happen once himself.

I'll never look at sushi, or bowel movements, quite the same way again.. (nor do I carry with an open top holster anymore)
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A whole different way to "Shoot the Sh!^ ".
Let this be a lesson, dont be facetious around feces. Seriously tho, you could have reached over & grabbed a urinal mint and used it to get the smell off. :D
 
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