Gun Friendly States Ranking
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SC actually ranked 15 out of 50 states and the District of Columbia. It is one of the top ranked states according to the link. To be honest you could take any of the top 10-15 states and rearrange slightly to put them in a different ranking. Everyone has different perspectives on what is more important. And we are accustomed to the laws in our home states and rarely view them as an issue.
Here in GA there is no class to take and OC is legal. In some ways both of those can be a negative. Lots of gun owners are opposed to OC and I can understand the point. Since GA does not require a class my permit is not accepted in several other states.
Personally I'd not mind going through a class in order for my permit to be accepted in other states. But according to the author this is a big reason GA is ranked so high. Another person would rank GA lower, but most would still place us in the top 10.
NorthBorder
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I'll step up for Montana. It's Montana....'nuff said.
Our state motto is "Welcome to Montana. Now go home."
Our state motto is "Welcome to Montana. Now go home."
Salmoneye
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According to the link, the relatively low rating for VT (17th) is due to suppressors being illegal...This was remedied in June:
https://www.nraila.org/articles/201...legalization-bill-signed-into-law-by-governor
The 2nd and most agregious reason for VT's low ranking?
This is directly from the linked page:
"Finally, if you’re a Vermonter and want to visit nearby states besides New Hampshire, you must pass through a gauntlet of oppressive gun laws before you reach the freedom of the rest of the nation."
Read more: http://www.gunsandammo.com/network-...est-states-for-gun-owners-2014/#ixzz3msbkWIaN
Oh, the humanity...
https://www.nraila.org/articles/201...legalization-bill-signed-into-law-by-governor
The 2nd and most agregious reason for VT's low ranking?
This is directly from the linked page:
"Finally, if you’re a Vermonter and want to visit nearby states besides New Hampshire, you must pass through a gauntlet of oppressive gun laws before you reach the freedom of the rest of the nation."
Read more: http://www.gunsandammo.com/network-...est-states-for-gun-owners-2014/#ixzz3msbkWIaN
Oh, the humanity...
CraigC
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With a 3-day wait on handgun purchases and prohibited open carry, I don't know why Florida would rank higher than Tennessee.
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There was a thread on this subject not to long ago and I objected to Alaska not being #1. I was told it was because we need to inform a cop if we get pulled over we have a gun. Also If I enter a home I need homeowners permission to bring a gun in.
When you're on the top the nitpicking gets stepped up.
Also what is this CC permit you folks speak of?
When you're on the top the nitpicking gets stepped up.
Also what is this CC permit you folks speak of?
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The Alaskan
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Permit, shmermit...this is Alaska. We do what we want. LOL
Red Wind
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So you don't tell the cop or the homeowner you're packing. Good for you.
2 very stupid laws. Only 9 states require notifying the LEO.
Only 4 require notifying the homeowner. So you are in select company.
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Well...I said that mainly in humor, and it's a phrase I use in MANY aspects of life.
As for whether or not I notify officers that I'm carrying:
a.) I choose not to carry a firearm for self defense, so that law doesn't apply to me and...
b.) I haven't had an opportunity to interact with an officer in...at least ten years (probably just jinxed myself) because I tend to keep my nose clean and stay out of trouble.
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^ As one born in Alabama, I'll concur... but here's my $0.02:
Alaska, AZ, WY, MT, VT are all permit-less or "Constitutional carry" states. As one who has worked at an FFL dealer in Alabama, California, and in between here is MY top ten.
1. Montana... it IS Montana!
2. Arizona... home to Gunsite and Ruger + more FFLs per capita than any other state
3. Wyoming, kind of like #1 on my list.
4. Alabama... born there, takes minutes to get CCW @ $20 per yr & no class. NFA dealers
Anniston is home of CMP and the biggest new shooting complex in the Southeast.5. Alaska
6. Utah... plenty of 1000 yd rifle ranges.
7. New Hampshire... Mas Ayoob and no sales tax
8. Mississippi... great hunting, lax gun laws.
9. Georgia... Smyrna is home to Glock; anyone heard of Kennesaw?
10. Missouri... Larry Potterfield, Midway USA
And runners up to 8-10 were: TN, KS, FL, VT, PA, WV, SC, NC, LA, SD, ND, Nebraska
Bottom 5: Mass, NY, NJ, CA, MD (with DC, HI & IL as runners up)
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Red Wind
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Kansas is also now Constitutional Carry and should be ranked in the top 5.
My top 5:
1.Arizona
2.Alaska
3.Vermont
4.Kansas
5.Wyoming
The bottom of the pile:
1.Hawaii
2.Maryland
3.New Jersey
4.New York.
5.Massachustts
My top 5:
1.Arizona
2.Alaska
3.Vermont
4.Kansas
5.Wyoming
The bottom of the pile:
1.Hawaii
2.Maryland
3.New Jersey
4.New York.
5.Massachustts
doubleh
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I just read thru the Guns & Ammo ratings. When I saw where they rate New Mexico I was reminded why I quit reading their magazine.
CoalTrain49
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WA is a lot like CO. We don't have any mag restrictions but we have the FFL transfer/NICS requirement. But like you say, no way to enforce it. I suppose if you sold a gun and it was traced back to you it might be a problem, but the reality is proving that it wasn't sold privately before the I-594 requirement could be difficult for a prosecutor. Seattle is a hot bed of socialist/leftist fervor and sways voters in that direction. I-594 was a waste of tax dollars with no real benefit to anyone. I haven't heard of anyone being charged under that statute yet and they have had lots of time and many opportunities to do it.
So, considering the whole enchilada, we have it pretty easy here in WA.
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CraigC
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Hasn't been worth the paper it's printed on in a long time.
Old Dog
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These lists are getting so silly as to not be creditable. It's all subjective, anyway -- what is most important to you?
I see states reflected in a number of "Top 10" lists, well above my own (WA) that don't even recognize open carry (very common in this state, and typically unremarked upon unless the OCer is seeing confrontation). Suppressors? We have 'em ... and a couple states ranked by some above us don't. Waiting periods? Got your CPL, no waiting period. How can a state be ranked above us with waiting periods?
We are one of only a handful of states that don't require any training to obtain a license, they're relatively cheap, can often be obtained same day, and are good for five years. Yet several states ranked above Washington require training and charge much more for licenses which take longer to arrive. Yeah, we've got I-594, but I've done a few private transactions since it took effect, most took less than 30 minutes and cost me only twenty bucks. Yeah, we have no full-auto for civilians ... sigh ... but if that impacts one's "rankings" one has way too much discretionary income (would I like to have my own machine gun? Of course, who wouldn't, but not at the price point even a "cheap" sub-gun goes for these days).
So, really, unless one is planning on moving to another state (some folks do, just like upgrading their cell phones), or travel a lot inside the U.S., why is everyone so concerned about "ranking" the states?
I see states reflected in a number of "Top 10" lists, well above my own (WA) that don't even recognize open carry (very common in this state, and typically unremarked upon unless the OCer is seeing confrontation). Suppressors? We have 'em ... and a couple states ranked by some above us don't. Waiting periods? Got your CPL, no waiting period. How can a state be ranked above us with waiting periods?
We are one of only a handful of states that don't require any training to obtain a license, they're relatively cheap, can often be obtained same day, and are good for five years. Yet several states ranked above Washington require training and charge much more for licenses which take longer to arrive. Yeah, we've got I-594, but I've done a few private transactions since it took effect, most took less than 30 minutes and cost me only twenty bucks. Yeah, we have no full-auto for civilians ... sigh ... but if that impacts one's "rankings" one has way too much discretionary income (would I like to have my own machine gun? Of course, who wouldn't, but not at the price point even a "cheap" sub-gun goes for these days).
So, really, unless one is planning on moving to another state (some folks do, just like upgrading their cell phones), or travel a lot inside the U.S., why is everyone so concerned about "ranking" the states?
Red Wind
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doudleh said:
New Mexico has a few Quirks. For one, you can only carry one concealed handgun at any given time. You can have openly carried handguns strewn all over your body like a bunch of LeBron James tattoos, but only one hidden gun.
Makes a lot of sense.
Still, I love it and it is the Land of Enchantment. Handgun Law spells it out.
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The lists are very subjective, I don't like the loss of any liberty but given the choice of UBC or not carrying at "public gatherings" I'll keep my gun.
Again, here in CO we took a big hit but it was in the same time frame that pot and gay marriage were sanctioned by the state so it probably could have been worse than it was.
Still have hopes that some of those things can be corrected.
Again, here in CO we took a big hit but it was in the same time frame that pot and gay marriage were sanctioned by the state so it probably could have been worse than it was.
Still have hopes that some of those things can be corrected.
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A Note on Wyoming and New Hampshire
Wyoming has the highest number of 'registered' firearms per capita according to http://www.bloomberg.com/visual-data/best-and-worst//most-registered-guns-per-capita-states.
I recall but can't find the similar note that 70% of the people in Wyoming own a firearm.
New Hampshire has the highest per capita NFA ownership rate per http://metrocosm.com/map-of-federally-regulated-weapons/
"...The state with most machine guns per capita is New Hampshire, with 7.4 for every 1,000 residents. New Hampshire also happens to have the lowest murder rate.
In Wyoming, which has a population of only about 600,000, there are over 100,000 “destructive devices” registered. I have not managed to figure out why, but there must be an interesting story there...."
If you use the link embedded in the source article Wyoming only has about 1700 'machine guns'. I suspect but cannot prove that this is a reversal of data points in table preparation but if it isn't what are all those DDs?
Wyoming has the highest number of 'registered' firearms per capita according to http://www.bloomberg.com/visual-data/best-and-worst//most-registered-guns-per-capita-states.
I recall but can't find the similar note that 70% of the people in Wyoming own a firearm.
New Hampshire has the highest per capita NFA ownership rate per http://metrocosm.com/map-of-federally-regulated-weapons/
"...The state with most machine guns per capita is New Hampshire, with 7.4 for every 1,000 residents. New Hampshire also happens to have the lowest murder rate.
In Wyoming, which has a population of only about 600,000, there are over 100,000 “destructive devices” registered. I have not managed to figure out why, but there must be an interesting story there...."
If you use the link embedded in the source article Wyoming only has about 1700 'machine guns'. I suspect but cannot prove that this is a reversal of data points in table preparation but if it isn't what are all those DDs?
That can't be right. The only registered firearms in Wyoming are machine guns, SBRs, SBSs, and DDs. No way there's that many of them there. My guess would be Illinois or New York has the highest number of registered guns.
morcey2
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Utah:
We almost got constitutional carry passed this year. Hopefully next year.
Advantages we have over AZ:
Open or concealed carry in public k-12 schools and colleges/universities with a resident CFP.
We can carry at polling places. (Quite often in a school, so CFP is required in those cases.)
"No Guns" signage doesn't carry the weight of law. (with a couple minor exceptions.)
Pretty much all of western Utah is a 1000 yard rifle range. Or 2000 yards. Or 5000 yards.
Depends on how much walking you want to do.
Matt
We almost got constitutional carry passed this year. Hopefully next year.
Advantages we have over AZ:
Open or concealed carry in public k-12 schools and colleges/universities with a resident CFP.
We can carry at polling places. (Quite often in a school, so CFP is required in those cases.)
"No Guns" signage doesn't carry the weight of law. (with a couple minor exceptions.)
Pretty much all of western Utah is a 1000 yard rifle range. Or 2000 yards. Or 5000 yards.
Depends on how much walking you want to do. Matt
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I've never had a problem with KY where I live. I don't own any NFA items but I know someone who does, and he said that it wasn't really an issue. Whenever I've wanted to buy/sell a gun I've just connected with someone via Armslist or FB and we would meet in a Walmart parking lot. Nobody ever freaked out.
I'm hoping that KY will come to make concealed carry without a license legal (unlicensed open carry is legal). I know that 7 other states have already done that, so I'm hopeful.
In Indiana you can get your CCW at 18. Here in KY it's 21.
I'm hoping that KY will come to make concealed carry without a license legal (unlicensed open carry is legal). I know that 7 other states have already done that, so I'm hopeful.
In Indiana you can get your CCW at 18. Here in KY it's 21.
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