Gun pants?

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Dockers brand and others like them have worked well for me with j-frame revolvers or pocket autos in LCP size. Both flat front or pleated front, with the pleated really concealing well.

Some Docker type khakis I've had are almost canvas like in material, but still look like business casual pants.

In my line of work, I've gone from jeans to Dockers and back to jeans. The Dockers were always easier to draw from than my current loose fit Wranglers. Concealabilty with a decent pocket holster is about the same.

For physical reference, I'm 5'9" at 180 lbs. wearing khakis in 34x32 and jeans in 34x34. Of course skinny legs and loose pants conceal better than running back thighs in the same pants.
 
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Once upon a time, Wrangler Riata slacks were really good, for pocket carry. Somewhere along the way, the pockets got smaller, so that they were too shallow for my favored SP101 snubby revolvers. I have not looked at Riata slacks, in several years, and am not sure whether they still exist, but it might be worth looking at whatever is Wrangler’s current equivalent to Dockers.

I really like Wrangler “Authentics” mens classic pants. I like the cargo pants because there is also a tech pocket on each side for carrying a cell phone or phones. They also make a pair of pants called “Tech” pants that do no not have the cargo pockets but do have a tech pocket for a phone on the outside of the right thigh.
These pants are thick cotton and wear like loose chinos.

I went for years with the Walmart Wrangler khaki. But they have quit carrying them.
I have a pair of Amazon Wrangler Riata that seem not to be as stout fabric. Also a bit roomy, I find myself wearing pants I have pudged out of. I also a pair of the Haggars a friend likes, haven't tried them for fit yet.

I bought a pair of some sort of Wrangler Cargo but had to take them overly long. I will have to have them taken up to get a trial.

I will be checking out the Authentics, non-cargo.
 
In the Summer of 1964, a DI at Parris Island made the following statement "Women wear pants and men wear trousers". As for pocket carry occasionally a S&W M640 utilizing a STICKY holster. Usually, my EDC a S&W Shield 9x19mm is in a belt holster. The best solution is simply avoidance of stupid people, places and things.
 
With chinos, go for pleated front instead of plain front. That's an easy choice that's available in a wide variety of brands and styles.

You can also try the "hidden comfort waist" with the hidden elastic band that allows the front quarters of the waist line to expand. This feature is helpful, but it's not as widely available as just pleats. Here is one from LL Bean:

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^^^ That's very much like the khakis I mentioned earlier in this thread. They let out if you want to carry IWB, and snug back up if you take the pistol & holster out.
 
My dumb recommendation is the exact approach I used when trying to find something that would function as semi-dress for the twice a year or so I can't wear jeans or shorts.

Went to a thrift store where I could see a variety of brands/styles/fabrics/fits. Spent about 12 bucks on 4 pairs in my size of different varieties to see what worked best, intending to order a pair of whichever kind I settled on. Instead I just wore the thrift store ones.
 
The Duluth stuff actually makes a lot of sense.

I have recently dropped some weight, and I found that I have another couple of inches in all my pants. Of course it helps.

But here's the thing I have been doing for a few years now that I know makes some of these tactical puritans tear their hair out. For the last few years, I have worn some kind of BDU/OCP/ACU pants almost all of the time. Minus church, or yesterday when my unit had a family Christmas party and even I thought it would look tacky. They are tough, roomy, and I have lots of them. I bought my first pair of BDU pants in high school because i thought they were cool. I bought a pair of Navy Type IV trousers a couple of years ago because I like the camo pattern, and no one else has them around here because there is very little Navy in my area. But the best part about them is, they have an elastic "mom jeans" waistband, and even though I need it less now than I did a year ago, it gives a lot of flex and comfort. I usually keep a tourniquet in the lower leg pocket. I can do it here because I live out in the redneck desert and no one cares anyway. I I could open-carry almost all of the time and no one would care.) It matches my personality and environment, so I just don't care. They have all the right pockets, I can wear any belt I want to with them, they are adjustable, they are durable, and I already have enough of various styles of them to last until I die.
 
In the Summer of 1964, a DI at Parris Island made the following statement "Women wear pants and men wear trousers". As for pocket carry occasionally a S&W M640 utilizing a STICKY holster. Usually, my EDC a S&W Shield 9x19mm is in a belt holster. The best solution is simply avoidance of stupid people, places and things.

People can call my clothes whatever they like if they are buying them for me. ;)
 
I started out with pants pocket carry--and then learned the difficulty of drawing while moving off line, and of drawing while seated.

No thanks.
 
For years I wore Dockers for work and dress. Carried the same pistol as I carried when wearing jeans iwb. Used the same belt as with the jeans. No printing and very comfortable.
 
Not sure if this fits the bill, but Levi’s and Wrangler both make jeans in khaki color.

Levi’s 505 in khaki color, with a button down shirt is my daily work wear. Ccw is a cinch.
 
I've really come to appreciate some of the new pants with a little stretch to them. Wrangler, Levi's, Dickies and others all make pants that are something like 98% cotton and 2% elastane. They look and feel exactly like regular pants but will stretch much like athletic pants. Not just in the waist, but everywhere. Not just for fat guys, but anyone who needs to move in your pants.

This is about all I wear anymore. I have jeans, khaki's, camo pants, and work pants made this way. I don't have to buy oversize baggy pants to be able to move. And they don't get baggy after you wear them all day.

Any of these advertised as "flex fit"

dickies work pants - Walmart.com

Wrangler Men's 5 Star Straight Fit Jeans with Flex - Walmart.com

No, these ain't cheap, but another example of the stretch pants concept. I wear these as part of my uniform for the SAR team I volunteer with.

Men's 5.11 Stryke Pants | Tactical Gear Superstore | TacticalGear.com

I have a couple pairs of these too. These are 100% synthetic.

Wrangler Men's Outdoor Zip Cargo Pant - Walmart.com


Cabelas carries some too. Just look for a tag that says "flex fit" or something similar.
 
Duluth Trading flex cargo pants and shorts. The cargo pockets easily carry my P229 with red dot in a sticky holster, and the pockets are positioned such that they provide fast access to it. And the velcro keeps the flap where it's suppose to be. Been carrying that way for years now, and I carry all day, everyday.
They're also super comfortable! Bonus, they're also tough as nails. I don't CCW but second the Duluth pants because if I did, that's what I'd wear.
 
The prices on current Carhardt give me pause--and some of the "ledgendary" quality has become more mythical. But, that's just my opinion.
Dickies and Duluth have filled in the gap to a goodly stretch.

The blanket-lined Carhardt gear is still pretty good, if at close to LLBean sorts of prices (and you get what you pay for).
 
The prices on current Carhardt give me pause--and some of the "ledgendary" quality has become more mythical. But, that's just my opinion.
Dickies and Duluth have filled in the gap to a goodly stretch.

The blanket-lined Carhardt gear is still pretty good, if at close to LLBean sorts of prices (and you get what you pay for).
As far as pants go, Ive come to a similar conclusion. Dickies Carpenter pants are most of what I buy anymore, and they have gone up in price as well, but are still about $20 a pair cheaper than Carhartts. Carhartts are still the way to go for bibs though.

Duluth's stuff looks to be OK, but I put it in the same boat as Carhartt as far as cost goes, and they are worse there. A number of guys I used to work with liked them, and one guy used to just "trade them in", or so he said. Apparently, their stuff is supposed to be guaranteed for life. I guess at $70 a pair, they ought to be.

No matter what you choose, if you're going to carry IWB, I would suggest buying your normal size, and dont size up. Unless youre not being honest with yourself as to your size, the gun doesnt make any real difference, and between your pants giving a little, and your body doing the same, it may feel snug when you first put things on, but a couple of minutes later, you dont know its there. There are a couple of advantages here too. One, your pants fit without the gun being there, they dont look like they are the wrong size (which they are if you size up), and when you do have the gun on, the pants help secure everything and keep things in place, and youre less apt to have to keep fiddling with it.

Im assuming here the fabric weight/thickness thing is more about pocket carry than it is IWB? Im just not seeing where it would be an issue with IWB, as you will likely have something over the gun anyway.

Im not a pocket carrier fan, and never really liked it, no matter how heavy the material is. After a while, unless youre using a hard holster, youre likely going to start to see a gun "Skoal Ring" in that pocket too, if the gun is always there.

There are also a number holsters out there that spread the "lump" out if thats a worry for you, so there are ways around things.

The other problem is probably going to be your belt, as true gun belts tend to look like gun belts, and most dress pants tend to only take narrow little belts. The narrower you go with the belt, the more like a torture device it comes, especially if there is weight on it.

If this pant thing is such an issue, then maybe a holster change is more in order. Ive used one of Kreamers "Confidant" undershirt holsters in the past, and it worked well under business attire and a full cut oxford shirt. You can wear it over a normal tee shirt, so it looks right if your collar is open, and its also more comfortable. And as Ive mentioned above, the Smart Carry, which these days, is my preferred way to go for this sort of thing. Both allow you to wear your normal clothes, without having to buy anything special, and both worked well for the need. You can be well armed, and in just a tucked in shirt and any pants you want. You also free up all your pockets for all that other important stuff you sem to have to have in them. :)
 
Rather than trying to find pants that won't print, I'd focus on a holster that breaks up the outline of the gun. After a short time the Desantis Nemisis and similar holsters like Sticky mold to the shape of the gun and clearly show what you have in your pocket. Same with kydex holsters like from Alabama Holsters, they outline the slide and there's nothing to hide the distinctive grip.

I tried a Recluse holster for a bit, they have a leather flap which hides the complete outline of the gun but they're really thick, looks like you have an oddly shaped brick in your pocket. The best I've found so far are pocket holsters from Garrison Grip. They cover the slide and grip and aren't obvious in your pocket, but don't fit too tightly around the handle so you can still wrap your fingers around the grip to remove the gun. Which is pretty important when you've already compromised your ability to grab your gun by keeping it in your pocket.

https://garrisongrip.com/woven-pocket-holsters/

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Rather than trying to find pants that won't print, I'd focus on a holster that breaks up the outline of the gun. After a short time the Desantis Nemisis and similar holsters like Sticky mold to the shape of the gun and clearly show what you have in your pocket. Same with kydex holsters like from Alabama Holsters, they outline the slide and there's nothing to hide the distinctive grip.

I tried a Recluse holster for a bit, they have a leather flap which hides the complete outline of the gun but they're really thick, looks like you have an oddly shaped brick in your pocket. The best I've found so far are pocket holsters from Garrison Grip. They cover the slide and grip and aren't obvious in your pocket, but don't fit too tightly around the handle so you can still wrap your fingers around the grip to remove the gun. Which is pretty important when you've already compromised your ability to grab your gun by keeping it in your pocket.

https://garrisongrip.com/woven-pocket-holsters/

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No offense, but that does not look like a holster I'd want. It would be slow to dig the gun out with the grip inside of the hostler. And the holster would probably come with it. I use a Sticky holster that leaves the grip exposed, and stays in the pocket when the gun is drawn. I practice at least once a day, and it works great for me. Yeah, it might print a little more, but I'll pay that price.
 
I started out with pants pocket carry--and then learned the difficulty of drawing while moving off line, and of drawing while seated.

No thanks.
So what did you do? Not carry, walk around with your shirt tail out, or switch to a tuckable holster?

I have a hard time believing any of those tuckable holsters actually keep the gun concealed for more than a few minutes after you first put them on. I feel like I might as well just stuff the gun into my belt like a pirate because that’s how it would end up the first time I stood up.
 
Fat guy/'manager pants' allow for more concealed-carry options because of their, ah, rather generous girth in certain critical areas.

AIWB carry, for example, becomes much less uncomfortable in such pants than if you wore the typical 'classic fit' jeans made for anorexic Asian males. :confused:

Be advised, however, that no one will ever accuse you of making a fashion statement, except possibly on a Sunday night at Walmart. :rofl:
 
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