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Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Snev22, Dec 6, 2019.

  1. jhb

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    small gun shops killed themselves with bad service, bad attitudes, high prices. also for being misinformation hubs and the parking lot filled up by the gun shop flies. regulars who distract employee or owners, from helping real customers, by telling stupid stories and talking tactical nonsense. ironically they never seem to buy anything. they just hang out like its a social gun club and get in the way.


    when internet buying came along it wasnt a hard choice at all.......
     
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  2. GEM

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    I would like to add that some new stores have owners that do not understand mercantile practices like finance, employee management, capitalization, advertising, taxes, laws for businesses, etc. They think a display of guns will just do it. I know two stores that opened and run by rich hobbyists - they went down the drain quickly.

    They also had the above mentioned attitude problems.
     
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  3. WestKentucky

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    Internet didn’t kill local shops, Local shops did. Your arrogant know it all owner combined with a idiot tacticool pretender behind the counter did. There’s not a whole lot of guys out there that are knowledgeable, honest, and fair with customers, so we are here now and we have to make the best of it. What internet did kill was the gun show “collector” that would tell you all about how his gun was exceedingly rare and worth a fortune because now it’s way too easy to shoot holes in that BS before you fork over your money. On the topic of collectibles, it drove prices down because now it’s not that there are a few Lugers around for sale and you happen across one every year or two, now there’s a bunch of them for sale just a few clicks away on Gunbroker.
     
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  4. Styx

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    This... Guns priced at or above MSRP, being full of themselves, and having bad attitudes are one of the main reasons. Failure to adapt to a changing market is the main reason.

    Now there is out of state competition, people no longer have to settle for the prices or service that's within driving distance.
     
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  5. lysanderxiii

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    Actually, not quite.

    If the state had a provision that implemented an "instant" background check, the waiting period requirement was waived.

    Another quote from that impeccable information source:

    So depending where you lived, you may or may not have seen a waiting period for gun purchases.
     
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  6. woodshunter

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    I like the real gunshops with that guns are being worked on smell when you go thru the door. Found one up here where I live and it was like the ones when I was a kid, got to know the gunsmith and his wife and learned more than I could believe. Now they are good friends and a shop that can fix most anything if I'm not in a hurry. Only thing was he builds accuracy guns and No one told me it can be very contagious and addictive. Woods
     
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  7. shoobe01

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    Indeed. Most people think "disruption," like Netflix killing the video store, or the threat to taxis of Uber/Lyft/etc is a cheat. Damned internet destroying our way of life.

    Nope. It's just someone working around the entrenched market, maybe even regulatory capture, to offer an alternative. Video stores were always inconvenient, taxis always were awful.

    So, sure you can run a surly, smoke-filled, the-UN-is-out-to-get-us-all gun store if it's the only one in the area and is the only real place to go for even info, much less ammo and supplies.
     
  8. lysanderxiii

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    You stated there was no such thing as a Federal Firearms License before the 1968 GCA. The form 4473 is not tied to the existence of an FFL


    It may have been done, but that does not mean it was wholly within the letter of the law.
     
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  9. .308 Norma

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    Thank you! I was beginning to think Alzheimer's was taking hold.:uhoh:
    I couldn't imagine that neither my wife nor I purchased a single gun from a gun shop (store) between 1994 and 1998, and neither one of us can remember any "waiting period" - ever. I was about to go downstairs and dig through our records safe to make sure my wife's and my memories weren't failing us. But all that would have proven was whether or not my wife or I had purchased any guns between 1994 and 1998. It wouldn't have proven that there wasn't a "waiting period" - which neither of us can remember.o_O
     
  10. jhb

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    I was throwing too big a blanket.....true there are good ones.....I support those and even will buy from them and pay more due to some advantages over only low price. things like better support and in stock now pick the one I want cause they got a few in stock. good treatment and VIP type attention, etc. lowest price ain't everything. good stores should be supported by us all, even if it costs a bit more.
     
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  11. dogtown tom

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    I deleted my response because GEM asked for it above.
     
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  12. Thibaut

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    I frequent two gun shops and every now and then, a third. Number one is a state wide franchise. Number two is one store and competition. Number three is a dingy little hole in the wall with infrequent bargains. Numbers one and two are manned by young guys mostly with an older guy seemingly there to supervise. None of them really care whether you buy anything or not and you would be out of luck if you had to depend on any of them for advice. Besides, you would get a different opinion/advice depending on which person to whom you spoke. I am semi friends with the owner of number two. He took an interest in my novice interest and set me on a path to learn. I am thankful to him. I show my appreciation by spending money in his shop. I search online for prices and he works with me. I don't interact with any of his employees anymore. Way too frustrating.

    I suspect that I would have enjoyed the mom and pop gun shops of yesterday. I remember one, in particular, that always held an air of intrigue when I would go there at Christmastime with my Pa. But then, I also miss his teak-filled Grand Wagoneer.

    Nothing much stays the same.
     
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  13. 94045

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    I go to two LGS.

    1. Single location (relatively small), sells lots of stuff on GunBroker, does lots of transfers and buys large volumes of popular models when available at large discounts and sells them at big discounts that almost match number 2.

    2. Two locations (pretty big), larger with indoor range at one, which also has a huge used gun inventory. Really doesn't want to do transfers (prices accordingly) and buys HUGE Quanities of firearms and sells them at really LOW prices when it's available. They sold 500 rifles of one hunting model on Black Friday (which is incredible in a black rifle driven market) last year. This year they had an AR Model and Two Pistol Models that exceeded 500 units each on Black Friday.

    It's hard for an under capitalized small dealer to compete. People just are not going to pay 20% more before you even discuss the possibility of buying online.
     
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