Guy goes in the Hospital and daughter sells 47 of his guns

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Family is everything, "not in this case. Local news had a 30 year old gal arrested for theft. She sold her dads lifetime collection of firearms while he was laid up for a few months in the Hospital.
At least this man did something about it, also had serial numbers of all his guns, and she pawned them locally. They said most were recovered. Bet those pawn shop guys thought they were getting a good deal from an uneducated gun owner. Just goes to show you, you don't get anything without a price, and if it looks too good to be true, it probably is. Think dad bailed her out?
 
This crap happens more that you think and I have been directly involved in it.

A few years back one of the small town pawn shops I used to frequent had a 32acp pistol I had been eyeballing. I made the deal and took it home. Almost a year later I get a call from the Sheriff's office in the town the pawn shop was located. The Sheriff told me I needed to drop what I was doing and bring it to his office.

I told him I would bring down as soon as I could. I jumped in the truck and drove the hour to the shop and caught the shop owner right before they closed. And asked for a refund, which he gave but he was not happy about it. I called the Sheriff's office on the way out of town and let them know it was returned to the Business. They were completely fine with that and let me know over 50 guns from a private collection were sold mostly to just a few pawn shops in the area.

Story was a older collector ended up being put in a care home. While in the home his two eldest daughters succumbed to the fact he would spend the rest of his life in it. A year later they started liquidating his assets to pay for his care. The father had a lock box that they knew of which contained the safes combo when they opened it the safe was empty save for some paperwork......and a updates list from Two years prior with info on all the guns he had including serial #s and who they were supposed to be given to at the time of his death. His estranged son who he had not talked to for a decade was the one that broke into his house and stole all the guns and the majority of them were sold to pawn shops. A few here a few there....all over a year.

There was a paper trail for almost every gun sold and the Sheriff's office had to track them all down some were even bought and used in charity raffles and those had to be tracked down as well.


Guys son was 50 years old.
 
Yeah, it happens all to often. It happened to a friend of mine. His druggy step son sold all of his pistols in a drug deal. It caused a lot of stress in his marriage when he had the boy arrested. None of them were recovered, at least not yet.
 
Situation as described, I'd file charges for theft and that would be the end of our relationship.
 
Analogkid said:
This crap happens more that you think
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Yes it does. Had a girl I was with steal and pawn a small handgun to fund her addictions that I became aware of after that. I didn't discover it for a couple of weeks, and she never would fess up, so it was not recovered. She had also been stealing pain meds from friends and family.

If anyone you know has an addiction, do not trust them.
 
It's amazing how many apples DO fall far from the tree. My kids are pretty sweet now (they're still young) but regardless no one, not even my wife, has the combo to my safe and I don't plan to ever let that change.
 
If you know somebody who is addicted to drugs, I don't care whether it's legal prescription or illegal mind altering drugs, chances are you know a thief. I have seen lots of examples of people who trusted loved ones lose money, guns, jewelry, etc. because the addict convinced them all was okay and the victims trusted the addict with keys or access to valuables. Never, ever believe the word of an addict.
 
MachIVshooter said:
She had also been stealing pain meds from friends and family.

If anyone you know has an addiction, do not trust them.
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This is how I came be a single dad. After I got home from the E.R. after her blackout, I came to the realization that every scrap of metal in the house had been disappeared. I used to love silver.

Luckily I traded her for the shooting hobby so...good trade.

Ha, I traded a two thousand two Dodge Caravan to her for the children... awesome trade!:thumbup: Unfortunately this was also the point at which I became jaded with most humans.:(

God please help me to raise better children than these!
 
My father sold a Universal M1 Carbine out from under me when I refused to get a degree he wanted me to have. It had been bought when I was 16, so his name was on the ATF Paperwork, but he had bought it as a gift for me. Still made me mad.
 
If anyone you know has an addiction, do not trust them.
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Never, ever believe the word of an addict.
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While I understand the sentiment behind these words, the reality is that there are a lot of functional addicts who go to work every day, do their job, even recognized for superior work, and never misappropriate or steal anything.
 
bassjam said:
It's amazing how many apples DO fall far from the tree. My kids are pretty sweet now (they're still young) but regardless no one, not even my wife, has the combo to my safe and I don't plan to ever let that change.
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My wife has as many guns in OUR safe as I do. But after following this thread for a while, I now think I’d better get another safe so we can have “his” and “her” gun safes so to speak.

No, wait – we have a joint checking account, joint savings accounts, our retirement pensions and our Social Security payments both go into our joint accounts, both of our names are on the title to this house and property, and both of our names are on our motor vehicle titles. On second thought, I guess I’ll just go on trusting my wife to not take my guns out of OUR safe and pawn them to support her meth habit.:D


lastofthebreed said:
If you know somebody who is addicted to drugs, I don't care whether it's legal prescription or illegal mind altering drugs, chances are you know a thief. I have seen lots of examples of people who trusted loved ones lose money, guns, jewelry, etc. because the addict convinced them all was okay and the victims trusted the addict with keys or access to valuables. Never, ever believe the word of an addict.
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Alcoholics are addicts too, and from what I can tell, just as bad. We had a son-in-law who was addicted to alcohol. He stole and pawned several of his own dad's guns before he died of his addiction.
 
My kids do not know the safe code, because what is mine is not theirs. Not for a long time yet.

I can see little bear sitting in the living room, a huge pile of Legos all around him.
"Hey. Why is the safe open? Where are all the firearms?"
"Hi, Dadi. Lookit my Legos!"
"Cool buddy. Where are the guns?"
"I got Batman!"
"That's great, little bear, where are my guns?!"
"I traded 'em. For Legos!"

No. No kids with safe combination. There are just no good senarios for me.
 
My wife's uncle is a Vietnam vet with severe bone cancer. He has 2 children, man and woman, who are older than I am by a few years. About a year ago the son broke into his basement vault and stole about a dozen rifles and just as many scopes. The lowest quality of which being Leupold and going up. All were sold with little trail to follow. With my help and some LE friends, some were recovered. As for the son, he didn't have charges filed against him but he was cut out of the will completely. And I earned a "sizable" list of firearms for inheritance as a thank you.
 
Demi-human said:
No. No kids with safe combination.
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Yes sir, that's good policy. My wife's and my kids (2 daughters) are grown and off on their own. They don't know the combination to our gun safe of course, but that's because there's no good reason for them to know it. Besides, one of them was married to that alcoholic I mentioned in my previous post in this thread. There's not a doubt in my mind that if he would have had the chance, he would have stolen and sold some of my wife's and my guns, just like he did his own dad's guns, before the alcohol killed him.
 
That is a good policy for dealing with everyone EXCEPT the people who make it plain by their actions that they believe things are more important than people. You're not going to make any headway with people like that unless you're willing to give up all your things to keep them around. And unless you can keep buying more things, eventually you'll run out and then they'll still leave.

At least if you keep them around longer, you'll have more memories of them stealing all your stuff to remember them by...
 
I knew a really good guy that had a bad son. Buddy was in his 70s and his son in his 40s. His son was always stealing from him and pawning his stuff at the local pawn shop.Buddy would never press charges on his son. He would just get the pawn ticket and pay to get his stuff back. After two years of this Buddy was having trouble making ends meet and the stress took a toll on his health. Buddy passed away a short time later. One of Buddy's family members told me that Buddy's house was pretty much empty of anything of value. All his guns and tools were gone along with his son.
My kids are 34, 19 and 13. They all know the combos to my gun safes. They have pretty much picked out the guns that they want. They also know that if they ever get mixed up with drugs, I will cut them off in a heart beat. They also know that I will have them arrested and prosecuted if they steal from me.
 
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