H&K 2000 with LEM trigger? Anyone else have my thoughts??

[drf]

Just picked up a new H&K P2000 in .40 S&W in the variant 2 which is the 7 1/2 to 8 1/2 pound trigger which is one of the versions of the LEM trigger system.....
Anyway, this is a DAO with a bobbed hammer and while the trigger pull is superb I dont feel safe carrying this gun with a rd in the chamber and such a light trigger pull....
There is no safety which is not a problem but I would have prefered a decocker with a heavier DA SA design...

I picked this gun mainly because of the ambi. features........

I'm sure it is a great gun! but I dont know if its for me....drf

 

[NMGlocker]

It's just as safe as a Glock or any other light DA pistol.
Get some proper training, and follow the safety rules.

 

[lazhuward]

It's a personal decision as to what you feel safe with. However, there are other "DAO" pistols with an even shorter and lighter trigger pull.

 

[mr_dove]

I wouldn't consider 8 1/2 pounds to be a light trigger. That's bordering on excessively heavy for me.

3 pounds is light.

There are lots of variants though. You'd probably like a variant 1 (safety and decocker) with an LEM trigger.

 

[M1911]

I tried a friend's HK USPc .40 with the LEM trigger. I was all psyched up to like the gun. I decided that if I ever decide to carry one of my HK USPcs, I'll have it changed to variant X (9?) so that it is SA only.

I was unimpressed with the LEM trigger.

 

[Cawdor]

There is no single action only variant for the USP. Variant 9/10 removes the decocker. It is still DA/SA with the option to carry cocked and locked.

 

[Dave Bean]

I've got the P2000 9mm LEM and I love it.

To me safety levers are another step in the shooting process, if you forget to disengage it or engage it at the appropriate times...bad things can happen. I like to worry about one thing, the trigger. As long as I don't pull the trigger, the gun will not go off...that simple. I don't want to worry about the safety and the trigger or the trigger and the safety.

I suspect that you have guns with more than one action type. Or you are used to one particular action type. Stick with that action type. If you're a DA/SA guy, stick with it. The P2000 can be had with a DA/SA. If you're a Glock guy, stick with a P2000 LEM. If you're a newbie, stick with LEM.

Dave Bean

 

[mr_dove]

I'm a single action 1911 guy.

I like really light triggers that are the same on every pull. I also like a safety on such a light trigger since I don't necessarily trust such a light trigger to be super safe without it.

I was thinking a 4.5 pound LEM but i'd need a safety to go with it. The P2000 does not have a safety (yet) but you can keep the safety lever on an HK compact if you choose.

 

[M1911]

There is no single action only variant for the USP. Variant 9/10 removes the decocker. It is still DA/SA with the option to carry cocked and locked.

True. But without the decocker I'd only carry it cocked and locked.

 

[obiwan1]

First: Make sure that you have a holster that covers the trigger. The gun cannot fire if the trigger is covered and doesn't/can't move. Thumb snap is OK. It blocks the hammer from moving, which it must do to fire the gun. Personally I don't like thumb snap on a concealment holster.

second: When you holster the gun (while wearing the holster, of course) Index the trigger finger along side of the frame while simultaneously placing your shooting hand thumb behind the hammer. (It's easier than it sounds). Slide the gun into the holster. Remove hand from gun.

The gun will not fire if the movable parts don't move. This is how the Feds armed with hammered DAO guns (the LEM is one of those) are taught to holster. It works. You never hear of an AD while holstering one of these guns. JUST KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER!!!

 

[M1911]

obiwan:

I don't have a problem with DAOs. I've got 3 Kahrs and 3 Glocks. I know how to draw and reholster safely (been to LFI and Sigarms Academy).

I just don't like the LEM trigger. I'm not in any way implying that it isn't safe. It's perfectly safe. I just don't like its feel. YMMV.