Here is the actual introduced bill:
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/5678/text
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/5678/text
I was at the local range, which sells firearms and ammo. I was cleaning my pistol after shooting, talking with my son, when someone with stereotype appearance (wifebeater shirt, big baggy starched pants, flat bill hat, chain, the works) was filling out a 4472. He started asking (fairly loudly) for clarification on the "ever been convicted of domestic violence/restraining order" questionsSo now they are going to have FFLs undergo social work training. FFLs will to be expected to be able to identify if someone might use the weapon in a crime... or self harm. lol
Guy asked him if he could have another form because he needed to correct his answer.h. Are you subject to a court order, including a Military Protection Order issued by a military judge or magistrate, restraining you from harassing, stalking, or threatening your child or an intimate partner or child of such partner? i. Have you ever been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence, or are you or have you ever been a member of the military and been convicted of a crime that included, as an element, the use of force against a person as identified in the instructions?
Even better than this training, would be if the feds focused on investigating and prosecuting those who lie on the forms. That might keep those people out of the store in the first place.I was at the local range, which sells firearms and ammo. I was cleaning my pistol after shooting, talking with my son, when someone with stereotype appearance (wifebeater shirt, big baggy starched pants, flat bill hat, chain, the works) was filling out a 4472. He started asking (fairly loudly) for clarification on the "ever been convicted of domestic violence/restraining order" questions
Guy asked him if he could have another form because he needed to correct his answer.
Guy at the counter told him if he had, he would know it. Owner came out and told him it was asking legal questions that he should be fully aware of, and that they reserve the right to not sell to anyone they choose, and they were not going to sell to him. Also told him they can't just throw away the form, they have to keep any form started, for inspection.
I would assume those guys would pass the training, and they would focus on things like that.
Lie & sign form = felony.those who lie on the forms
Yeah, I had to look over the bill to find reference to ammunition. They lob that discreetly into the opening sentenceFrom the quick read it looks like they will require anyone selling ammunition to undergo the training. Imagine that cost being passed on to consumers. Radicals won't need to eliminate firearms, they just have to restrict and make the ammunition unobtainable.
my emphasis added(m) (1) (A) The Attorney General shall annually make available to each licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, and licensed dealer, and each employee of such a licensee who is authorized to engage in the transfer of firearms or ammunition in the course of the firearms business to unlicensed persons, a training course in the conduct of firearm transfers.
Wait, it says "each licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, and licensed dealer", are companies who only sell ammo required to have an FFL?Yeah, I had to look over the bill to find reference to ammunition. They lob that discreetly into the opening sentence
my emphasis added
So, that's a significant note. That is making Sgammo, Targetsportsusa, and a zillion other online shops, 99% of which do NOT sell firearms, only ammo, included.
That's a good question. I don't know the exact requirements, but you do seem to need "something".Wait, it says "each licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, and licensed dealer", are companies who only sell ammo required to have an FFL?
Good question there. First thing I'd wonder about is liability; if you're going to impose a mandate for retail sales, the middleman is not the intended target. It will be the one that sells to the public.What if a store sells imported brands that it buys from a US distributor? The store isn't the one importing them... ???