Hammerli 33MP and S&W Model 41

[Gun Master]

Is it just me, or does anybody recognize the similarity of the two above pistols ?

I wonder if S&W had to pay compensation for patent rights ?

I really like the Model 41. Wish I could afford one.

 

[Bullet Bob]

I'm probably missing something, but the Hammerli MP 33 I'm familiar with is a single shot falling-block free pistol with a wooden fore end, and looks nothing like a S&W Model 41.

 

[DT Guy]

Yep, I think that might be the wrong model #.

Alternate answer: "No, I don't really see the resemblance, myself."



Larry

 

[bannockburn]

Gun Master

Maybe you're thinking of the Hammerli Model 208?

 

[rcmodel]

I wonder if S&W had to pay compensation for patent rights ?

Probably not.

The Model 41 came out in 1957.

The Hammerli series that lead to the Model 208 in 1964.

rc

 

[Gun Master]

My Bad, Partially

Sorry guys! My bad!
I was looking through The Gun Digest Book of Modern Gun Values - 15th Edition (2009), on page 147. The profile of the picture of the "Hammerli Model 33MP" shown, looks "to me" as being strikingly similar to the S&W Model 41. But, I read below in the description, it is a "Single shot....22LR; 11- 1/2- inch octagonal barrel....completion free pistol.....".
Since it looked like the S&W Model 41, I "assumed" it was a semi-auto.
You know what they say about "assume".

 

[Gun Master]

Gun Master

Maybe you're thinking of the Hammerli Model 208?

Looks similar, but without the extreme grips. Just thumb groove on the left grip.

The MP33 was discontinued in 1949. The 208 was made 1966-1988.

Thanks.

 

[Gun Master]

Probably not.

The Model 41 came out in 1957.

The Hammerli series that lead to the Model 208 in 1964.

rc

Thanks, rc.

The Model 33MP was made in Switzerland 1933-1949. It looks much like the Model 208, but without the extended bottom grip.

 

[rcmodel]

Regardless of that.

S&W didn't copy anything, and certainly didn't have to pay Hammerli anything.

rc

 

[Jim Watson]

I can't find any reference to a Hammerli 33MP as an automatic.

In the 1950s, the Hammerli .22 autos were commonly listed as "Hammerli-Walther" pistols because they were almost direct copies of the 1936 Walther Olympia. The 208 still carries on a good deal of that design. And the S&W M41 is more similar than they might like you to think. They were working on the design from before WWII as soon as they got a look at the Olympia.

 

[Gun Master]

My Boo-boo (Mistake)

I can't find any reference to a Hammerli 33MP as an automatic.

In the 1950s, the Hammerli .22 autos were commonly listed as "Hammerli-Walther" pistols because they were almost direct copies of the 1936 Walther Olympia. The 208 still carries on a good deal of that design. And the S&W M41 is more similar than they might like you to think. They were working on the design from before WWII as soon as they got a look at the Olympia.

Thanks, Jim.
Please see my posting #6 (above). What I saw turned out to be a single shot free pistol. I should have read the description below the picture.

 

[Gun Master]

Regardless of that.

S&W didn't copy anything, and certainly didn't have to pay Hammerli anything.

rc

I still highly regard the S&W 41.