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Handgun restrictions in Southern California?

Discussion in 'Legal' started by DeCocker, Nov 28, 2008.

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  1. DeCocker

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    I'm not sure if this is the appropriate forum for my question.

    I may have to relocate to Southern California, specifically LA area (work related) for a couple or three years and need to know what restrictions the state has on handguns, rifles, and shotguns besides hi-cap mags.

    Any restrictions on compact, sub-compact single stacked 1911s, mouse guns (e.g. Beretta Jetfire, NAA Mini, etc.) and also revolvers with more tha 6 rounds?

    Are there any restrictions on semi-auto pistols such as Glocks, Sigs and CZs that can take hi-cap mags and single stacked magsl?

    Also wondering about AR15s, AKs, semi-auto pistols like the Kel-Tec PLR-16s and Benelli M1 shotguns.

    Thanks in advance for any "rule-of-thumb" feedback.:confused:
     
  2. MountainBear

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    Thank GOD, I live in Texas. What a toilet that California is!!!!!
     
  4. DeCocker

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    Thanks Mountain Bear.
     
  5. Glock River

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    The "work related" excuse is thrown around as if it's impossible to say no to an employer. This is one of those times where you say no. Don't support southern ************ with your tax dollars, don't move there, and don't give the enemy $12 to register your handguns
     
  6. 50 Shooter

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    As usual "THE HIGH ROADER"S" as spreading FUD just becasue they don't like CA.:barf::barf::barf:

    If you move here you can bring your pistols with you but you do have to leave the hi-cap mags. You can make a killing if you bring pistols with you that aren't on the approved list as you can sell them in a private party transfer. Money making hint for ya...;)

    You can also have AK's, AR's... You just have to know how to work around the laws. Go to www.calguns.net and look at the AW flow chart to see how CA gun owners have beat them at their own game!
     
  7. Glock River

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    No, we love California, it is anti gun government tyranny that we hate. You are also being misleading on several points. You totally left out the handgun registration which as I said, is $12 per gun. Bringing in handguns not on the approved list is legal, buuuut there are logistical problems that make it impractical to make money. For starters, a california resident, like the rest of us cannot purchase a handgun from another state. So, a person would have to stock up BEFORE they moved to cal.

    Plus you were very VERY misleading about AKs/ARs. You made it sound like an easy "work around" when it is not. Major changes have to be made to the AK/AR to make it pass the calfornia marxists. Magazine wells have to be permanently altered and/or a semi auto has to be turned into a single shot :barf:
     
  8. 50 Shooter

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    Really? Name them...

    I NEVER said that he didn't have to register them, I said he could bring them. I also said he could bring extra's to sell which is totally LEGAL also.

    Here, read the CA AW flow chart and get informed.

    http://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf
     
  9. Just Jim

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    I love California and Californians, to stay right were they are and not infect the rest of us with their gun laws:D:D. Sorry you have to go there and hope something good comes of it.

    jj
     
  10. Glock River

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    Relax 50. I did name where you were misleading. Take a chill pill and notice that I only said you were being misleading. I didn't say you were saying anything totally false.

    Yea I know you didn't say he didn't have to register them (reasoning with hostile people always requires a sentence full of negatives :rolleyes:), you just left it out.

    Look, if it makes you mad that people point out how tyrannical the laws are there, and if you want to believe that the laws are "workable" so you can justify staying, then that is YOUR problem sir. Fine stay. Jump through the hoops if it makes you feel like you're accomplishing something. At what point does the block of cheese just have too much mold on it to try and save it? Sure, you can cut off all 6 sides but you can still smell the mold.

    I am informed sir, which seems to infuriate you. I believe you are in denial about how bad is really is there. But hey, the weather is nice (well, warm at least).
     
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    Right, ask yourself those same questions when Obama takes away your stuff. Where are you going to move to then?

    I'm sure you'll find a way to blame CA.:rolleyes:
     
  12. Jorg Nysgerrig

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    Yeah, no open carry, having to worry about whether 51% of the revenue is from boozes, no carry at schools, no carry at sporting events, no carry at hospitals, nursing homes, churchs, amusement parks, or any other place that simply has a sign posted. California must be unbearable... oh wait, that's Texas... ;)
     
  13. fireflyfather

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    Glock River, have you never heard of a prince50? Bullet Button? As long as it's not a named assault weapon (colt, armalite, etc), you can buy a lower, add a maglock of some sort (3 sorts for ARs, last time I checked, one of which even has a CA DOJ approval letter), and you are good to go, provided you configure it properly. It's not nearly as bad as you think. There is a grey area with maglocks, but it's never lead to a conviction, and most of the CA DAs are coming around to our way of thinking after several high profile arrests went NOWHERE, once the lawyers got in on it. My favorite is the one where the guy had belt-fed M1903 semi-auto guns along with his off-list-lowers, and the only charge they had even a prayer of making stick was some "sap" gloves and a knife that was legal, but they might be able to convince a jury was illegal. Matt Corwin was the guy's name. These days, you can see OLL at pretty much any Southern California range that permits rifles. A good number of cops have them as private owners, WITHOUT department AW paperwork.

    To the OP: Go to calguns.net and you will find everything you need to know about legal firearms ownership in Cali. It's also a good place to go if you are interested in fighting the crap laws we have here.

    Glock River: Get truly educated before you start accusing others of going off half-cocked and ill-informed.
     
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  14. DeCocker

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    As much as I would prefer to stay where I am, with the economy the way it is, it's kinda like throwing the dice if I say "no". After all, I like my job and feel fortunate that I have one.

    I also feel very fortunate that I currently live in a state that's not as restrictive as California.

    I gather from the responses that I will need to register all of them, including extras (i.e. different models and/or caliber of the same firearm), if I brought them with me which can be cost prohibitive. I'm assuming that I will need to have them modified before they can be privately sold. Another challenge is that movers will not move fireams and ammo, so I will have to move them on my own which is a long way to So. California and will add to my moving expenses which I may not get reimbursed for.

    I may just have to hope for the best (i.e. California is temporary and short term) and plan for the worst (i.e. sell them before the move).

    Nevertheless, I appreciate all the feedback. :banghead:
     
  15. DeCocker

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    Firefly.. what is OLL?
     
  16. 50 Shooter

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    OLL stands for Off List Lower.
     
  17. CountGlockula

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    When there's a "CA" topic, all the non-CA members take every opportunity to take the LOW Road.

    Classy.

    Get ready for the LOCK, thanks to our fellow non-CA bretherens. Geees.
     
  18. dstark

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    I agree 100%
     
  19. FN5.7shooter

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    California is restrictive no doubt but you can have AR/AKs and lots of other fun stuff. When you get to LA PM some of the SoCal Calguns.com members I am sure they would enjoy showing you some of the local ranges. Oh, it cost a ton of money to live in LA. That is the reason to not be in CA not the restrictive gun laws. Enjoy California and be safe. :)
     
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    you wont have to modify the pistols to sell them, you just cant bring in the Hi Caps. A bullet button for an AR is a 5 minute or less install, and has a minimal effect on range shooting reloading times. you dont have to register the rifles or shotguns, as there is no long gun registration in Cali. You do have to register pistols however, but selling a prized off list handgun when you get here could offset the cost of registration for the rest. It is not as bad as some would lead you to believe here. You will also have to get a handgun safety certificate that is good for five years to have your handguns, unless you are exempt. As others have said, check out Calguns.net for more info and they will steer you in the right direction.

    and Glock River, there are some employers that you cant just say "no" to when they tell you to relocate to a gun unfriendly state.
     
  21. Leanwolf

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    50 Shooter, you should have added that there are no private party long gun or handgun sales/transfers in Calif., without both people going through a FFL dealer, background checks, waiting period, etc.

    (I lived for 35 years in Los Angeles, and am still a Life Member of the Calif. Rifle & Pistol Assoc. Get their newsletter every month.)

    L.W.
     
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    This is totally wrong, and you are not informed at all.
     
  23. Just Jim

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    Californians have a history of not fighting the gun controls put on them. They are one of the worst states in the nation for controls and the crime rates prove it. Heck even on Fox's O'Rielly tonight another story of the rampant crimes in San Fran. The people just walk around the crime. If you don't want a bad name then stay home and clean up your state.

    jj
     
  24. DeCocker

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    Didn't mean to open a hornet's nest about the issues of gun ownership in California. Just needed to get some idea as to what to do with my collection. I wouldn't be concerned if I only had a couple or so. But bringing a few pistols, specially if they're off the list, may potentially raise some eyebrows when registering.

    It'll be interesting to know which off the list pistols are desirable in California, though?
     
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    Jorg, if you wanna compare and contrast the gun laws in Cali. vs. Tex., I don't think they are comparable. Not even close.
     
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