has anyone used XS big dot sights?

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ndh87

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I want to change the sights out on my Glock 17 for night sights. Right now i have the standard white dot sights. I was looking at the Meprolight green/green night sights and remembered seeing the XS big dot sights in cabelas. I looked up their website and pulled up a video on youtube, they seem to work pretty well.

I was just wondering if anyone here has them, has used them or has an opinion on them.
 
Love them.
I had them on a GP-100. I had them on my Makarov. I had them on my HiPower, I had them on my AR-15. My Marlin levergun, my 870, my M1a. I love them.
Great sights.
 
They are Mr Magoo's favorite :)

Trade off speed for accuracy. I prefer a fiber optic front and a "Novak's" style plain black rear. But whatever works for you.

--wally.
 
It depends on what the gun is for in my opinion. I have xs's on a 1911 and i think they are the best thing out there for a carry gun.
You won't notice any accuracy differences in this situation, but much quicker acquisition. Fiber optics are fine for target shooting and I prefer sights other than xs for this, but for carry you don't have to be Mr. Magoo to appreciate them.
 
I have them on a couple of my regular carry guns and like them quite a bit.

Perhaps I'm just morphing into "Mr. Magoo" as I get older, slower and my bifocal prescription changes, but they seem to make a considerable positive difference in how quickly I can acquire my sight picture and deliver the bullets where they need to go out to 20-25 yds.

Personally, given my own inexorable advance into Geezerdom and the most pressing issues that is likely to entail as far as my self-defense concerns are going along with it, I'll sacrifice a fair amount of potential long-range precision for that extra speed.

YMMV, but I can't see where having the bullets an inch or two closer together at 25+ yds trumps being able to put them there faster and more consistently all along the way.
 
I bought one used semi-auto that came with them (installed by prior owner?).

I did not like them at all--they required a totally different sight picture from any other sights I own.

I had them changed out for MeproLites three-dot tritium. Much better.

--If you only own one gun, they may be for you.
--If you put them on every gun you shoot regularly, they may be for you.
--If you are Mr. Magoo, they may be for you.

None of the above describes me, so I have no use for them.
 
I have them.
I hate them.

OK for a strictly defense gun, but my carry gun sometimes is used at coyotes at 70+ yards, or maybe a groundhog, or whatever....
That big dot covers up too much. Good for center of mass shots at very close range, but for small groups or distance shots, forget about it.
 
They came on my Hi-power. Excellent for fast acquisition, not so much for long range or threading needles. Gonna just say it depends on your application.
 
I Use Them...

...on the pair of S&W 640-1's I carry on a daily basis. On these revolvers, I only have the Big Dot with the tritium insert on the front. Out to intermediate ranges, such as ten yards, I simply seat the dot in the groove and the bullet usually impacts about where I would see if I could look through the tritium dot in the center of the front sight. A few years ago I fired a pair of "qualifications" with these revolvers for a Nevada CFP renewal and, as I recall, had one round just barely over the line into the nine-ring one each "qualification," one of which was shot right-handed and one left-handed; the remaining rounds were all in the ten-ring. I don't recall if the course of fire extended to seven or ten yards.

More recently, one of my students brought a pair of Glock 26's, with the Big Dots paired with the shallow-V express rear sights. I tried one of them and found it comparable and (for me) comfortable.

Many people, such as myself, like these sights for defensive handguns as the Big Dot tends to intrude into the visual cone when your brain is more inclined to focus on the threat than on the front sight. Some older shooters find that the Big Dot is an adequate answer to presbyopia (age-related difficulty focusing on close objects). I don't imagine that I would ever want this system on a dedicated target pistol, such as a S&W Model 41. However, if I ever start carrying an autoloader that is not already fitted with more conventional night sights, I suspect that I'd go for the XS system, at least with the tritium dot up front - I have not had the chance to try the tritium bar below the center of the V of the rear sight after dark.
 
Good for center of mass shots at very close range, but for small groups or distance shots, forget about it

At very close range -- a car length or so -- is what I practice "instinctive" point shooting for. Sights are for when you have time to aim.

--wally.
 
The Big Dot sights came on my SIG P245 and I was unsure at first about this sight. Then I came to realize how fast this sight is for multiple targets and follow-up shots at close range, say 14 yards or less. No, the XS system is not a target sight. But I don't see a better one day or night for short, tactical distances and endorse the reasons given earlier.
 
Try doing a search here on THR and you'll see lots of info on these sights.

I have them installed on both of my carry auto's - a SIG 229 and a Glock 30.

These sights are perfect for self-defense use - they are "combat" sights, not "target" sights.
 
"Theres nothing that high explosives and duct tape cant fix."

ndh87, I had to chuckle when I just noticed this. It reminded me what a particularly tough infantry first sergeant told me one time during a war zone long ago, "Sir, there is no problem too tough that a couple of blocks of C4 can't cure." God, that man loved to blow up things.

"...For me they're both fast and accurate, and I get good hits at distance too." Shawn, I guess lots of practice is what it takes to get a decent group greater than 14 yards. At 25 yards my eight-inch targets are pretty well covered up. My outdoor range is limited to 25 yards, which is also the maximum range of any qualification I have.
 
I use the recommend sight pictures and they work for me: XS Express Sight Alignment Less than 15 yards put the big dot on your aim point. 25 yards and out put the aim point on top of of the front sight.

One of favorite reactive targets is potatoes. I buy a bag and throw a bunch downrange. They're pretty hard to see after about 35 yards, but I have no problem making them explode. It's unusual if I have to fire twice to get a hit.

Shouldn't require any more effort or practice than conventional sights, IMO.

Cheers!
 
Thanks for all the input. I see that XS makes some sights that are the same style with a smaller dot, i think those look pretty good too. My Glock is my fast shooting close range gun, and i do carry it sometimes as well.
 
I've gotten pretty used to regular sights. are the green on green sights the best way to go or orange and green? Which style is easier to pick up on?
 
For "regular" sights, I personally don't like 3-dot tritium sights as they're too busy. If you go this route then I recommend Trijicon.

I suggest a two-dot system, like Heinie Straight 8, Novak Bar-Dot, and MMC Bar-Dot, in no order of preference.

Green tritium lamps produce the brightest illumination and should always be the choice for the front sight.

I might consider a color other than green for the rear dots if I had to use a 3 dot tritium sight system. That's a personal preference, IMO.
 
watch the videos by James Yeager from tactical response, he will show you how to instal them as well as how to use them. imho they are the best sights on the market for defense. they are outstanding and they are really quick on target.and they are bright day and night.
 
I had them and hated them. Needless to say, they've been replaced by a standard 3 dot NS setup. I'm sure they work well for defense, but I just couldn't get used to the sight picture, not to mention that my duty gun has 3 dot sights on it.
 
I had a Glock 17 with the big dot sights back when the company was called Ashley Express, and I currently carry a Glock 22 with the standard dots. If you train to focus on the front sight, they're the best thing since sliced bread. I have been doing a lot more defensive shooting practice these days and I really love these sights. You can acquire a flash sight picture easily and quickly, and they are definitely capable of making accurate hits to at least 50 yds if you have decent trigger control. If I could justify the cost, I would go ahead and replace my standard dot set for the big dots. I will be adding a set of big dots to my new carry pistol, a Kahr TP9, as soon as I have the extra cash. I recommend everyone to check out the links that Shawn Dodson posted if they are curious about these sights.
 
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