Have you ever accidently discharged in your house or apartment?

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Not had one yet, but I am in the 'candidate' category as a result of the frequency with which I handle firearms.

So, I picked up an old Level III ballistic panel for $20, which I use for dryfire practice, clearing, cleaning, etc. There are commercially available products designed for this purpose which are much better:

http://www.safedirection.com/

I've seen a Safe Direction demonstration first hand, and the devices are very impressive - they work as advertised :) .

This kind of precaution will certainly not excuse an ND, but it will help to mitigate the consequences - which could mean alot.
 
Yes I have and more than once.:what: Mostly pellet guns when I was a kid or high end pellet rifles with no safeties. Worst case I ever witnessed was 5 of us was riding in a Blaser going on a raid. The sniper was using a 700 Rem in 30-06. He put one through the roof while in route. None of us had much hearing after that and we cancelled the raid!:D
Jim
 
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One of my first lessons in the serious nature of guns...

A new friend showing me his guns up on the mtn.
After he explains some rules to me and we shoot his .40 and 9mm for a while he says "Oh! I got something to show you." We walk up to this cabin on the property and he's showing me this handgun, some sort of modified piece, a machine pistol. He's going through the action and all of a sudden it rattles off some number of times (alot of times).

"Whoa."
"Did you mean to do that man?"
"Uh, no."
"Is the safety on?"
"****, yeah."
"Hm. Remember that that happened."

Fortunately it wasn't loaded, that time.
 
I've done it. ONCE.

I was modifying an SKS into a four shot capacity sporter and this required some changes to the mechanism.
Not having any dummy rounds in 7.62 x 39 I was testing the feed with a live round.

No problem for an old professional.:uhoh:

I fed a round from the magazine into the chamber and BANG.

The projectile hit a 6"x4"x2" piece of steel that I was making into a small surface plate....it is still in the workshop as a reminder and useless for its intended job.

In my ignorance I had made the rifle fully auto, thankfully I only loaded one round into the magazine.
I didn't pull the trigger, if fact it was not possible to leave the gun cocked as it went off as soon as the working parts went into battery.

The fault was, as I remember to do with removing/altering the mechanism that allowed the magazine to swing down for cleaning.

It was a very neat little rifle by the time I finished it (safely).
Now it is a bit of recycled steel somewhere after the Great Australian Gun Grab as all semi-autos, sporting or military, were banned for general use.

The projectile completely disintegrated and no other damage was done.
I was very very lucky as I was sitting down at the time with the rifle pointed down at about 45 degrees, the "surface plate"was about 4 feet in front.

Moral: No matter how long one has been with firearms it's always possible to make a mistake.

Duach.
 
good/bad lesson

when i was a teenager but old enough to know better i was out in the woods in a cabin with a dri=unk friend and my dog. friend was screwing around with a 22 rifle shot my dog. he was 2 disraught to finish her off. i hada do it. one of hardest things i ever did. took 3 shots i missed twice from 3 feet away. after i did what hada be done i almost put one between my friends eyes
 
Once, Last night

I feel so stupid. I just aquired a Glock 19 and like I do whenever I get a new gun, I have to figure out how it all comes apart. I finally figure out how to disassemble the magazines and clean the springs of crud from several trips to the range. I put everything back together and load one magazine for the bedside night stand. I ALWAYS leave the rest empty...Not last night. For some reason I loaded two of the three mags. I decided to do some dryfire practice and glaced over to the full magazine to confirm the gun was not loaded-Stupid mistake #1, and then proceded pull the slide back to see the empty chamber, but missed the full magazine due to the downward angle of the gun. I pointed it at the wall and pulled the trigger...BANG! put a round through the glass of my livingroom entertainment center door, missed the Theater reciever and the Satalitte receiver. Went through the outside wall, through the siding, across into the neighbors garage wall, through the garage, through the oppacite wall and into a dead space above their livingroom ceiling!!!!!!! I live in a bi-level so the round was very high on their property. They didn't even know it had happened. Felt so bad when I had to go over and tell them. I never, ever want to feel like that again!

Never say never-it can happen
 
One AD and one ND. Never inside.

Saw an interesting post recently in which a guy describe a "bullet catcher" he uses for dry firing. In his words it is just an extra protectection that allows him to never point a gun at something he could not live with destroying. He had half of a fifty gallon barrel filled with 24" of sand. I don't know if it would work but it seems to make sense.
 
never have had an AD

I have come close and done things I was tempted to smack myself for once or twice....but always caught any mistakes I made or was making before ADing
 
huh?

brazz1 said:
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One of my first lessons in the serious nature of guns...

A new friend showing me his guns up on the mtn.
After he explains some rules to me and we shoot his .40 and 9mm for a while he says "Oh! I got something to show you." We walk up to this cabin on the property and he's showing me this handgun, some sort of modified piece, a machine pistol. He's going through the action and all of a sudden it rattles off some number of times (alot of times).

"Whoa."
"Did you mean to do that man?"
"Uh, no."
"Is the safety on?"
"****, yeah."
"Hm. Remember that that happened."

Fortunately it wasn't loaded, that time.
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This is a good thread guys, I think it's important to validate the 4 rules.
 
I blew a .410 hole thru the front porch decking.
a rangy feral cat was hunting birds at the bird feeder so I quietly slipped out the front door with my old single shot. While thumbing the hammer back, my thumb slipped off and it discharged. I replaced the deck board with a matching piece from out in the barn, put the saw away as my wife pulled in the drive.
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If that counts then I am guilty as well. My dad got me a single shot 20 ga. shotgun for Christmas when I was 10 or so. We were out hunting rabbits not long after and my thumb slipped off of the hammer. I think that my dad would have been really pissed if he could have stopped laughing.

My oldest boy was handed that very same shotgun on Christmas of 04. Anyone want to guess what happened the very first time we went out to shoot it? That boy can shoot. Now I actually have to try to outshoot him.
 
Just remembered one more.

When my brother was in his very early teens he had a 30/30 out somewhere with my dad and mon. They had spent a few hours shooting and were over by the truck getting ready to leave. Mom and Dad talking about something by the front of the truck and bro. near the back getting ready to put the rifle away.

BOOM!!

My Dad turned just in time to see my brother hit the ground. He ran over trying to find the gunshot but could not see any blood or anything wrong other than him curled in the fetal position with both hands holding his groin area. He pulled my brothers hands away but again did not see any blood or anything.

It turns out that my brother was unloading the rifle and had the butstock resting on that special spot when it went off. Aside from a slightly higher voice for the next couple of days the only damage were two holes in my Dad's camper.
 
Well...:eek: yes...
I had gone shooting w/ a couple of neighbors and while we were getting stuff unpacked to start cleaning, we hear this huge..no.... HUGE! bang :what: Turns out one of the guys didn't finish off a mag before he put all his gear away at the range and while taking out this particalur handgun, he shot it off in his condo :what: Talk about a FAST response time from the local PD...
After they left, we found it pretty funny :D
 
My first...and hopefully only...was a couple weeks ago.

I had considered it an AD because it was a mechanical failure that caused it, but after reading a couple similar incidents in this thread I think that cycling live rnds to test a feeding problem makes it at least somewhat an ND as well.

I'm working on the ramp of a Colt 10mm that a 'gunsmith' recut badly, and have been hand cycling to test as I go...knowing it's not the same as fired cycling, but it gives me an idea how it's doing.
I was holding it in my left hand...I'm right-handed...with all fingers around the grip, and pulling the slide with my right hand, so I know I didn't have a finger in the trigger guard.

Halfway through the second mag the gun fired...through the wall(over 2" stucco), 3 sheets of 3/8 plywood, and into the 1/2 mile or so of heavy woods on that side of my garage.

I've reproduced what happened since...without any ammo in the gun.
Not every time, but ocassionaly the hammer follows the slide all the way down.
The 'gunsmith' also did a trigger job on this gun.

So now it's indefinitely retired until I get it to a good 'smith...

And I'll never hand cycle live rnds again.

Live(fortunately) and learn.
 
Had mine not even a month ago...

And I have never been more scared in my life. I'll never forget that feeling, and I hope to God it never happens again, and I'll do everything in my power to make sure that it doesn't.

I bought a Colt .38 not too long ago - been bitten by the revolver bug recently - and did the usual routine when I buy a gun. Get speedloaders, ammunition, take it home, clean it up, load it... I've owned auto's for years, and never had an accident, so apparently I had become complacent with safety.

The next day, before work, I take it downstairs with me to show a friend I sometimes ride to work with. It's still loaded, as it is in my control, and while I was brushing my teeth, something possessed me to start manually cycling the cylinders. Complete stupidity at it's finest: thumbing down the hammer on a loaded revolver - one-handed - while brushing my teeth... Nice! :banghead:

Well, I never heard the shot actually go off, but since I was in the bathroom mirror, I saw it happen. Then my ears started ringing. I'm looking at the mirror, and wondering - why is there a hole in the corner of the wall?! And why the hell is the morror shattered on one side?! Then I smell gunpowder. I feel the gun heating up in my hand. Then it clicks in my head what just happened....

Where's my girlfriend?

"OH SH*T!... SH*T!! AWWW HOLY SH*T!"

I just kept repeating myself and walking around in circles. I live in a very nice apartment complex, and this happened at 7:00 in the morning before work... I think this was on a Tuesday or something. EVERYONE was home. Both neighbors on both sides are at home, and I just let off .38SPL+P in my bathroom... Mind you, the bathroom is on the end of the unit, connected to the neighbors bathroom. If my neighbor and I are in the bathroom at the same time, one of us can hear if the other bumps the wall. Very thin walls. And at this time in the morning, I'm 100% positive that the people next door should be doing the exact same thing I'm doing... In the bathroom, getting ready for the day.

"What if I killed one of the neighbors?"

Do I go over and ask if everyone is okay? Well, if I do that, then they'll DEFINITELY call the police. Besides, if someone wasn't okay, I would hear something going on next door, right?

Wait, what am I talking about? I can't hear sh*t as it is!

"I'm going to f*ckin' jail," I keep saying, in a moment of panic...

"The cops are coming and they're gonna take my @&#%!$* guns over this!"

My girlfriend keeps telling me to calm down. She also insists that I show her where it happened. We go, and look, and find that the bullet knocked a quarter-sized hole in the drywall after it pulverized the glass in the mirror, then knocked a quarter-sized hole in the corner posts, went through the 2x4 in the wall and lodged in the plywood about 6 inches back. Point blank, and it didn't go through the wall!

My friend comes. I let him in., I tell him whats going on. We wait for the police for over an hour. No one shows up. I watch my neighbors leave for work. They wave at me and say hello.

Get the HELL outta here!!! You mean nobody heard that?!?

Sure enough, no one has ever said anything about it, and I DAMN sure wasn't going to call the police on myself. I came here and posted a thread about it, and it's been slow getting over it. I bought another revolver yesterday ( a beautiful Taurus 608, 4" .357Mag with a ported barrel - range report coming later today), and I'm not scared of them anymore... so that's good. I'm just 10x more careful now than I ever was before. I figure that's all I can do - but the last thing I'll ever do is play with a loaded gun of any sort, ever again.

The colonels 4 rules... You know, they really do work if you just follow them. :D Never say never... I had considered myself to be extremely safe with firearms before that happened. The ONE time I got complacent and did something stupid, I had a ND.

It can happen to anyone.
 
as the man said. "there's two types of pilots, those that have landed wheels up and those that are going to land wheels up."::
I dont know about accidental discharges but some future remodeler will doubtless wonder someday why there is a 45 slug in the wall stud of my old house...
 
Someone mentioned luck. It is not luck when you haven't had a ND or AD. It's called paying attention to what you are doing and proper gun handling procedures. That is how people get killed needlessly.
 
I haven't had an AD/ND...yet. Came close last week due to both my son and me being careless (me being the most careless). He had been shooting his SKS in the back and left his rifle in the garage loaded and with a round in the chamber and safety off, and with the garage door wide-open for all the world to see.

I absent mindedly (i.e. STUPIDLY!!!) picked it up and allowed my little finger to encroach into the trigger guard. I was more focused on my annoyance over him leaving his rifle out in public than I was on safe gun handling.

*knocks wood to thank gnomes for saving my butt...thank you gnomes* :banghead:
 
Once was enough

Once when I was a child, 7~8 years old. Rural home of my grandparents. Grandad had a 410 propped up against the corner in the bedroom. Curious, I looked down the barrel, cocked the hammer and pulled the trigger. Needless to say the ceiling and roof required patching. Learned very early on, as I wiped proverbially the poopy from my britches, always regard a weapon as loaded until proven otherwise. :eek:

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NOTE: No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
 
All the time

last count was like 22 A/D's

only have have the wife on my rear because we live in a rural area .



















































































































j/k
 
Couple lessons,

Once while looking at a semi-auto thompson for the first time in a year since my grandfather and I last shot it I found a live round in the chamber! We both just looked in silence at the round. It was a good reminder of why we always check the chambers before doing anything with a gun.

A friend of mine sent a .223 into the outside wall of his house recently. It did not penetrate the brick veneer, and scared the kids in the living room. Fortunately for him his wife was not home.
 
Before leaving the range all mags are removed. All ammo is removed. Rifle is fired to confirm no ammo. Then the bolts are removed just to be sure and pistols are broken down after going though a similar process. That way when I get home my weapons are ready to be cleaned and are not capable of firing as they are in pieces. All this so an AD doesn't happen.
 
If you carry long enough you will have an AD

I have had my 'AD' and the police took a report, believed me and did not take me in. An experienced Sgt. is what kept me from a night in jail out of town. The first young officer was acting shocked like a armed civilian was always a crimmal. Happened in a rather public place. The number reason why you must teach your young people and never let a fireram point in a direction of another person is that something can happen. I still have terrible dreams about whoat could have happened but I still carry. I believe that if you carry long enough it will happen, so never be over confident.
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